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Ethereum has blobs. Where do we go from here?

vitalik.eth.limo

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Re: Ethereum has blobs. Where do we go from here?

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> Basically, Ethereum is no longer just a financial ecosystem. It's a full-stack replacement for large parts of "centralized tech", and even provides some things that centralized tech does not (eg. governance-related applications). And we need to build with this broader ecosystem in mind. I have respect for ethereum. It seems like one of the few cryptocurrency projects actually trying to push those ideas as far as th…

Here's an elevator pitch. Your twitter/facebook/github account gets banned, what do you do? With farcaster/lens/radicle, it's impossible.

The problem you have is that 99.999% of people aren't getting banned.

And of those remaining the overwhelming majority deserve it.

So you're trying to convince people to adopt Etheruem, Blockchain etc to solve a problem no one has.

Re: Ethereum has blobs. Where do we go from here?

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And Zcash and others doing the same?

They aren't. Zcash has opt-in privacy, which I think we've established doesn't work. By this logic BTC also has opt-in privacy – just use a mixer. Well, except that your BTC will be tainted if you do it, which effectively makes BTC non-fungible for all intents and purposes. The only way to have a private, fungible cryptocurrency is to make privacy mandatory and not "something you enable because you are a drug dealer"…

> Zcash has opt-in privacy

You could just as accurately say Zcash has opt-out privacy too. And the privacy is much more than a mixer since you got ZKPs.

Opting out of privacy gives it more plausible deniability, which is why you can find it on coinbase. Not that you should need deniability, since no one has any business knowing what you're doing with your money.

Re: Ethereum has blobs. Where do we go from here?

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Something tells me that even if/when the optimistic or SNARK-based EVM verifier is production-ready, the person you're replying to will still feel somewhat unconvinced.

Very likely, but if they get it sorted out one day he will be using it without knowing. If you have no interest whatsoever and they start explaining to you all the cryptography behind establishing a secure connection to your bank most people would dismiss it as mumbo-jumbo. But now you can tell your grandma to look out for the little green lock on the web that makes her account secure.

> he will be using it without knowing.

I will know. Not because of the "little green lock".

I will know in the same way I know this site is secure. In this case, because of PKCS #1 SHA-256 (aka CKM_SHA1_RSA_PKCS_PSS). Cert issued by DigiCert Global Root G2 and valid until one second before midnight UTC on 3/29/31.

That's where I guess I'm losing sight of the vision.

It's tested, it's proven, it's secure, it works, no "gas", no fees ... I don't know. Maybe I'm just missing something.

Re: Ethereum has blobs. Where do we go from here?

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So you pay with monero but you still need to give them an address to ship to which some probably store somewhere where the police might eventually find it ? I guess depending on the local police the chances of that leading to any trouble are lower than getting stabbed by a tweaker when you go out into the community to purchase your stuff

The risk is not just 'stabbed by a tweaker' but 'surprise fentanyl'. And police are very unlikely to come after some random online buyer who is not distributing/reselling.

https://energycontrol-international.org/drug-testing-service...

You can get quantitative GC/MS tests in addition to fentanyl / nitazene test strips.

Re: Ethereum has blobs. Where do we go from here?

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So you pay with monero but you still need to give them an address to ship to which some probably store somewhere where the police might eventually find it ? I guess depending on the local police the chances of that leading to any trouble are lower than getting stabbed by a tweaker when you go out into the community to purchase your stuff

I've heard that drug abusers exploit legally protected status of snail mail to avoid search, and have substances sent to an innocent third party as a dead drop or a dummy address to be intercepted. I'd assume authorities will get to you anyway, though.

> abusers

Excuse me.

Re: Ethereum has blobs. Where do we go from here?

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"Bitcoin but its anonymous" does not make Monero a real currency. I guess it helps that its value is relatively stable. But I still can't realistically use it. I can't walk in a store, buy something, then pay with Monero which is obviously disqualifying on it's own. But in addition to that, if I want to give a friend some Monero I would have to walk them through making a new account with some new app which they won't…

"I can't realistically use credit cards. I can't walk in a store and pay using my credit card. And if I want to send some money to my friend, I have to walk them through of opening a bank account which they won't do because it's pointless anyway and I can just hand them the $50 dollar bill" - Someone years ago. Do you expect every store to start accepting it instantly? Your argument does not disqualify Monero as a re…

Monero is nine years old, Bitcoin is fifteen years old.

I looked up the history of the credit card on Wikipedia to see how fast that caught on. It seems it had a slow start as well. Things only changed when a big bank put all of its weight behind it. I don;t think something like that will ever happen with cryptocoins, since there are no big institutions that would benefit from it becoming widespread.

Re: Ethereum has blobs. Where do we go from here?

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>As far as I can tell, the only cryptocurrency that actually delivers on its name (i.e. being used as a currency) is Monero. Sure, it's all drugs and stolen credit cards, but it does undeniably solve a real world problem for its users instead of just being used as a vehicle for speculative investment. This is exactly my use case (the former not later) with Monero and it's been amazing. Only marginally more difficult…

So you pay with monero but you still need to give them an address to ship to which some probably store somewhere where the police might eventually find it ? I guess depending on the local police the chances of that leading to any trouble are lower than getting stabbed by a tweaker when you go out into the community to purchase your stuff

If someone sends any comm without PGP or I heard a vendor they are not using it witb someone else and I'm never interacting again. It really is that simple!

Re: Ethereum has blobs. Where do we go from here?

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I use it everywhere where it's an option (so not very often, let's say once a month). I also only use privacy services (vpn for example) where you can pay using cryptocurrency, otherwise what's the point

What are some other examples, except for a VPN where you use crypto to pay? And how is the situation around the world - are retailers who offer digital goods/services allowed to accept crypto as payments?

There was a sketchy looking file sharing website where someone had posted some incredibly hard to find audio tracks that I really wanted, but the website required a subscription. Paying with a cc meant automatically-recurring payments, but I paid with bitcoin, got my files, and knew the website couldn’t get any money from me after that.

Re: Ethereum has blobs. Where do we go from here?

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Yes you can argue like this and I thought about it when I got a letter. The issue is that if it's too much they will still raid your place even if the evidence might not be that clear and they might ignore politicians. Good luck defending this, it will still be annoying as fuck If your PC is gone for month

You got a letter warning you? If they had proof you paid you would probably be in jail. Can still be painful, but way better than if they had proof you bought it. (Also, if any of your drugs dont arrive or were opened, never order any more)

It was for 5g and I have no record.

It was from the state and it was dropped.

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