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Why are most sofas so bad?

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Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

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Post by TylerE »

btbuildem wrote: post #345
rlonstein wrote: post #300

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When I was in grad school I accidentally wandered into the workshop for Montauk ( https://montauksofa.com/collections/sofa/montauk/ ) with my girlfriend. They were very polite and I took their card. A few years later when I had some money, and my girlfriend was my wife, I still had the card and we bought one. More than twenty years since we still have it and it's just starting to get to where some of the cushions nee…

How did you accidentally wander into their workshop? That place was in a random industrial zone off the 20 somewhere near Point St Claire.. Also super spooky, how did you know I was talking about them?

He didn’t, you just accidentally doxed yourself.

Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

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Post by dlp211 »

brianwawok wrote: post #250
decafninja wrote: post #208

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Some brands like Hermes, Rolex, etc. also require you to establish a “relationship” with them to acquire their most popular items (Birkin or Kelly bags, stainless steel watches). This entails a lengthy purchase history, and some schmoozing of your assigned sales associate doesn’t hurt either. Unless you’re some well known figure, just waltzing into a boutique with a suitcase full of cash won’t get you what you want t…

And what’s funny is a budget model 3 you order online totally smokes the Porsche. It’s really just trying to sell a badge not a product.

This is, and I cannot overstate this, one of the most ridiculous, tech bro statements I've read on here in a while.

Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

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Post by TylerE »

dylan604 wrote: post #182
al_borland wrote: post #158

When I moved to an area for work I wasn’t planning to live long-term I ended up buying the cheapest sofa in the store. I think it was around $270. After a prolonged illness I grew more and more displeased with it, to the point that I went and bought a better one after I was better. I bought from a place that advertised the inside of the sofa more than the outside. It was all about the build quality and how long it wo…

Quality ain't cheap, and cheap ain't quality. In furniture, you definitely get what you pay for...or not. I've found anything Anything decent doesn't really start until ~$1k, and anything in the $3k range you mentioned starts to become heirloom quality. As with anything, these are YMMV, but serves as a fast basis for my experience

The entire problem is that “decently expensive, good quality, but luxury/fashion” largely doesn’t exist any more.

Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

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Post by jbm »

brianwawok wrote: post #250
decafninja wrote: post #208

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Some brands like Hermes, Rolex, etc. also require you to establish a “relationship” with them to acquire their most popular items (Birkin or Kelly bags, stainless steel watches). This entails a lengthy purchase history, and some schmoozing of your assigned sales associate doesn’t hurt either. Unless you’re some well known figure, just waltzing into a boutique with a suitcase full of cash won’t get you what you want t…

And what’s funny is a budget model 3 you order online totally smokes the Porsche. It’s really just trying to sell a badge not a product.

Nothing gives me more joy than watching car geeks furiously posting when they see things like this. Thank you, I had a long day at work.

Daily reminder that your "super cars" are worthless. Merging onto the highway is far more important than "winning in the corners".

Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

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Post by ornornor »

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #312
VHRanger wrote: post #296

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The problem with Ikea is once you have to move them around. Or if you have kids/dogs jumping up and down the sofa, etc. The particleboard connections aren't very sturdy.

Well sure, but in many cases, you can go to a "proper" furniture store, buy a piece that is a couple of times more expensive than the one from ikea, and get the same particle board and same shitty connections... especially with stuff where the wood is hidden (eg. sofas). Also the assembly for ikea stuff is usually perfect.. everything aligns to the last millimeter... which again, I can't say for much more expensive f…

> the assembly for ikea stuff is usually perfect.. everything aligns to the last millimeter...

What? How?

I’ve moved a lot in the last 15 years and always defaulting to ikea for convenience. “Fits together well” isn’t what I’d use to describe their furniture.

Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

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Post by doubled112 »

zeroonetwothree wrote: post #356
doubled112 wrote: post #291

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All my Ikea stuff has been perfectly fine as well. A photo fell off the wall and put a rather large hole in a Lack coffee table one time. We were pretty amazed that the photo frame won. It was a $25 table. I could buy many for the price of something nice. Having small kids around, and seeing how they play, learn to use a fork, etc, I feel like we made the right choice buying cheaper. Plus what kid doesn't want to pla…

I still have the Lack end table I bought for $7 20 years ago.

At some point between then and now they changed how they made them. They have more empty space inside now.

Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

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Post by TylerE »

jerkstate wrote: post #206
mrguyorama wrote: post #86

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>junk now being sold as luxury. That's always been the case though. There has always been junk marketing itself as "luxury" to milk the nouveau riche. It's not like real Coach bags utilize some magic leather that doesn't degrade just the same as the $200 leather purse you buy from a local artisan. It's not like the brick that Supreme sold was made of some sort of magical clay. The luxury purse companies don't burn th…

Coach is probably a bad example here because they are known for using high quality leather, and they are also among the less expensive "designer" brands (there are Coach leather purses in the $200-500 range, wheras you are looking at $2000-5000 for a brand like Louis Vuitton - also high quality leather, but not worlds apart from Coach). There is a huge amount of variability in quality of leather, from top grain to fu…

The most important thing to remember that the strongest thing they can say about genuine leather is that it isn’t fake. Even that’s debatable.

Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

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Post by frankJames001 »

btbuildem wrote: post #181

Twenty some years ago I used to work at a business that made and delivered sofas. They've got showrooms in key large cities in North America, fancy schmancy top end stuff. The factory was a real place; the frames were made of solid wood and plywood, there was a sewing floor and even one (incredibly kooky) person whose sole job was to stuff the pillows. This guy was in a little room full of feathers all day, and they'…

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Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

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Post by TylerE »

ghaff wrote: post #258
tiltowait wrote: post #224

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I’ve got one of their backpacks. It’s very nice. Heavy, though, at around five pounds. Sadly it almost never gets any use, because I rarely have need for a backpack. I should have bought some luggage instead. Like the other poster, I also have a couple of their wallets. They’re simple but obviously high quality. They don’t feel as slick as the Coach wallet I was given as a gift, but I have no doubt they will hold up…

Leather is actually not a great material for a backpack or an outdoor (non-dressy) shoulder bag from a practical perspective in the 21st century. Nylon and related synthetics is a lot more practical. If you gave me a leather outdoor bag I'd probably thank you nicely and stick it in a closet or sell it. I do like leather wallets though I almost exclusively use small front pocket ones these days because of sciatica and…

Going from a trifold to a bifold is pretty game changing if you haven’t. Drastically reduced thickness for a very minimal change in capacity.

Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

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Post by imp0cat »

VHRanger wrote: post #299
brianwawok wrote: post #250

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And what’s funny is a budget model 3 you order online totally smokes the Porsche. It’s really just trying to sell a badge not a product.

Typical American thinking. Your model 3 can't handle a corner. The reason car enthusiasts like Porsches is that they handle particularly well.

But that's not his point. He's right about the badge.
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