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Re: Google fires employee who protested Israel tech event, shuts forum

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Post by name_nick_sex_m »

Yasuraka wrote: post #175
minimaxir wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They weren't fired for taking a stance, they were fired for how they took the stance.

I suppose he knew he was out either way, at least this way it's harder to cover up. Google is known to retaliate in backhanded ways when people take a stance in a way that is allowed, such as Ms Koren in 2022 > Agree to move to São Paulo, Brazil, within 17 business days or lose your job. https://web.archive.org/web/20240226163002/https://www.nytim...

Internally Google has a super pro-isreal constituency (i.e. jewglers), and seems to viciously retaliate against alternate viewpoints.

https://www.globes.co.il/news/article.aspx?did=1001460684#ut...

Re: Google fires employee who protested Israel tech event, shuts forum

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Post by DonHopkins »

ReptileMan wrote: post #231
GordonS wrote: post #164

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I'm not saying it is, but technically, yes, it could play a role. For example, US-backed Israel has used an AI system to decide where to drop bombs. They likely need lots of storage for videos of their drones killing people. They likely used databases with the locations of journalists so they could murder them. Just a few examples, but compute and storage can definitely play a part.

And those types of data will be stored om Google cloud? Can't we just assume that the person is bored, overly political and naive?

As an unrepentant racist who's bored enough to post about your racist beliefs on Hacker News, you're overly political and naive, so who are you to talk?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39605689

Re: Google fires employee who protested Israel tech event, shuts forum

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Post by bmer »

YZF wrote: post #347
pbiggar wrote: post #346

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If you're going to quote Hamas, a bit dishonest of you to quote their 1988 document instead of their 2017 one. "16. Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the…

No. It's dishonest of you to claim that: "Islam does not allow killing of civilians in war, so this would surprise me. I googled for it and haven't found anything other than pro-Israeli groups saying it." and say that you couldn't find evidence of it when clearly in 1988-2017 Hamas did exactly what you're so surprised of. Is this a new tenant of Islam that came into force after 2017? Also you know that quote is from…

That quote does not come from the Quran (I am no fan of Muslims or Islam).

Re: Google fires employee who protested Israel tech event, shuts forum

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Post by YZF »

CyberDildonics wrote: post #353
YZF wrote: post #352

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You're not approaching this discussion in good faith. It's a war and you're going to find many example of civilians get hit. There are many more incidents than what you list and it proves nothing (Other than the media bias and your manipulation by it, assuming you started from a neutral position). The bit about the UN top court is just political bullshit and you know it. But if your moral authority comes from UN coun…

You're not approaching this discussion in good faith. I'm showing you real information from multiple worldwide news sources. You are writing huge paragraphs with no links to try to ignore a genocide in progress while repeating unsourced propaganda like "Gaza that want to rape, kill and mutiliate your citizens" When you kill 1% of a population you are imprisoning in four months, destroy their homes, hospitals, infrast…

If Hamas on Oct 7th managed to kill 1% of Israel's population I would not call it genocide. Don't tell me what I'd do. If they killed 5% of Israel's population I would still not kill it genocide. I can give plenty of evidence to the genocidal intent of Hamas but that coupled with killing 1% of Israel's population is not a genocide.

Your "unsourced propaganda" comment is offensive bullshit, but here are some sources:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/oct-7-sexual-violence-united-n...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67629181

https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/how-hamas-used-sexual...

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/28/world/middleeast/oct-7-at...

https://theintercept.com/2023/12/24/feminism-sexual-violence...

https://www.irishtimes.com/world/uk/2024/02/03/hamas-raped-a...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13005021/october-ge...

https://www.businessinsider.com/hamas-sexual-violence-octobe...

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/08/world/middleeast/hamas-se...

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/israeli-activists-say-worl...

https://news.sky.com/story/womens-genitals-systemically-muti...

https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/12/witnesses-confirm-rap...

https://www.algemeiner.com/2023/12/29/horrific-new-evidence-...

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/sj62yy7na

https://nationwideradiojm.com/bbc-hamas-raped-mutilated-isra...

https://oct7map.com/women

https://themedialine.org/headlines/special-report-on-deliber...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/23/israel-shows-f...

Re: Google fires employee who protested Israel tech event, shuts forum

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Post by CyberDildonics »

YZF wrote: post #364
CyberDildonics wrote: post #353

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're not approaching this discussion in good faith. I'm showing you real information from multiple worldwide news sources. You are writing huge paragraphs with no links to try to ignore a genocide in progress while repeating unsourced propaganda like "Gaza that want to rape, kill and mutiliate your citizens" When you kill 1% of a population you are imprisoning in four months, destroy their homes, hospitals, infrast…

If Hamas on Oct 7th managed to kill 1% of Israel's population I would not call it genocide. Don't tell me what I'd do. If they killed 5% of Israel's population I would still not kill it genocide. I can give plenty of evidence to the genocidal intent of Hamas but that coupled with killing 1% of Israel's population is not a genocide. Your "unsourced propaganda" comment is offensive bullshit, but here are some sources:…

I don't think you can take these terrible crimes and extend them to 10s of thousands of people's motivations. Any time you hear someone say that a city worth of people all only want to 'rape and mutilate' you should question if that is an attempt to paint one side of a conflict as inhuman.

How many people need to die before you call something genocide?

Re: Google fires employee who protested Israel tech event, shuts forum

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Post by kadomony »

smashah wrote: post #110
kadomony wrote: post #85

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Being unprofessional about it in a way that brings reputational (and by extension financial) damage to the business is fireable, yes.

Doesn't being complicit in a plausible-Genocide bring about reputational, and by extension financial, damage to the business? Therefore by your standards the GCP execs relating to engagements to the Israeli Einsatzgruppen Force and their co-conspirators (including the U.S military) should be fired.

Oh yeah, they're TOTALLY the Einsatzgruppen. rolls eyes

Re: Google fires employee who protested Israel tech event, shuts forum

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Post by ReptileMan »

DonHopkins wrote: post #362
ReptileMan wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And those types of data will be stored om Google cloud? Can't we just assume that the person is bored, overly political and naive?

As an unrepentant racist who's bored enough to post about your racist beliefs on Hacker News, you're overly political and naive, so who are you to talk? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39605689

I am the one that didn't get fired because of performance

Re: Google fires employee who protested Israel tech event, shuts forum

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Post by wahnfrieden »

YZF wrote: post #324
salah7252 wrote: post #281

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This line of logic is so low level, why did a non-governmental party..not build a government..in a walled off open air camp...where an occupier controls what goes in or out & has destroyed things like seaports & airports. VERY low level.

Your argument isn't very strong either. Gaza wasn't walled off forever. The walls were built in response to attacks from Gaza into Israel. No attacks and there'd be no wall. Israel didn't occupy Gaza so how is an "occupier" controlling everything? What about Egypt? If Israel controlled everything then how did lathes for making rockets, trucks, machine guns, RPGs, grenades, assault rifles, mines, get to Gaza? Your "op…

israel did destroy gaza's airport.
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