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Re: Vice website is shutting down

#361

Looking at their YouTube, their recent videos don't have exactly low view count, but also not as high as I would expect, given how costly they must be https://youtube.com/@VICE I guess they were really a product of a different time.

They’re not stopping producing content, they’re shuttering their own website. I imagine high YouTube viewing figures is exactly the sort of thing that plays into this decision.

Re: Vice website is shutting down

#363

It makes no sense to not let the site online in an archived form, for the posterity It wouldn't even be a significant cost and ads would recoup it anyway There should be a way to donate a website to the Internet Archive so that they run an online archive on it, basically keeping the site frozen forever (rather than relying on the Wayback Machine which has worse UX)

> It makes no sense to not let the site online in an archived form, for the posterity I wanted to say, that Dr. Dobb's did that. https://drdobbs.com/ But some time in the last few years something mus have gone broken. You can't open the article links anymore.

>But some time in the last few years something mus have gone broken.

Which tends to be what happens. Something breaks. No one can be bothered to fix it. And at some point they don't renew a domain and take the content offline.

Re: Vice website is shutting down

#364
How can we solve this if we don't defer this to laziness but try to address it as a very real cost for the owner of the site in terms of

- Brand damage (content), e.g. Cancel culture, etc when old articles are discovered later or seen in new light - Brand damage (privacy/user base), e.g. Assumed to protect identity of all old users, risk of exposing secrets, offering old user-generated content as training data to ML not wanted - IT security, potential attack surface or exposes info to use when designing attacks - Lawsuits (content), e.g copyright/DMCA or content that is deemed illegal/not properly licensed

I guess the list could be made longer.

Re: Vice website is shutting down

#365

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Because the internet has started dying. Everyone though it would take at least some time before AI generated content kind of started stifling the internet, making it hard to find things, hard to figure out what is real. But, its already ramped up. I at least thought it would be a few more months and more focused on election. But at least me, I seem to see its impact in every YouTube video, generated content is appear…

It's not AI killing the internet, it's the parasitic worms in human suits that run hedge and equity funds. Everything gets converted into "value" which means nothing has value. The end game seems to be one engorged sack of money, and nothing left to buy with it.

It's not the parasitic worms managing Apache, it's us. For a fat paycheck.

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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-In mid-August 2013, Rupert Murdoch's 21st Century Fox invested US$70 million in Vice Media, resulting in a 5% stake. -In August 2014, A&E Networks, a television group jointly owned by The Walt Disney Company and Hearst Corporation, made a US$250-million investment in Vice Media for an ownership stake of 10%. -In November and December 2015, Disney made two additional individual investments of US$200 million totalling…

Propaganda for what?

If you don’t already know, you’re the target of it.

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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My sense is fewer Zoomers are interested in the grimy/underworld/rave vibe compared to Millennials and Gen X. It’s all the same to them. My theory is that when Millennials were growing up there was still a strong ‘default culture’ that helped sustain a thriving counter-culture. One could move decisively between the two when bored/frazzled. Zoomers have grown up flailing around in a devolved soup of ideas. Everything’…

I would just like to point out that members/former of every counterculture back to at least the 50s have said this about the younger generation; it’s almost a cliche.

I'd have to disagree this time. I'm in nearly early 20's and there's not really a prevailing and counter culture. Just two dozen different intercting culture. The lack of a overbearing monoculture does make it hard to effectively rebel.

Re: Vice website is shutting down

#369

Looking at their YouTube, their recent videos don't have exactly low view count, but also not as high as I would expect, given how costly they must be https://youtube.com/@VICE I guess they were really a product of a different time.

Their youtube really needs to be archived. It'd be a shame if they deleted all that content.

Why would they even archive it? They don’t have to pay for hosting on YouTube, so those videos at this point are a cost free revenue stream.

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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> It wouldn't even be a significant cost and ads would recoup it anyway I 100% don't get it when websites with lots of content and good SEO just delete everything. Fatwallet (fuck you Rakuten). Yahoo Answers (hey, I didn't say good content). Even on my own Drupal blogs that I didn't want to maintain/update anymore, I did a giant curl job, recursively regex'd out the login/comment submission fields and dumped them on…

I don't understand why publishers take down Kindle books when the paper book goes out of print. It happened to one of my favorite scifi novels. It takes zero effort to keep the book available (I know, I self-published a silly little one), and zero effort to include it in your accounting as long as there's a data feed and a computer.

I've taken a non-fiction tech book offline. It was just really dated and I didn't really want it out there any longer as a result.
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