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Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by islewis »

ra7 wrote: post #334
tarvaina wrote: post #299

Did I get this right? Bard – old name of their generative AI service, to be called Gemini Duet AI – old name for their generative AI in Google Workspace, to be called Gemini Gemini – three things: 1. the name of their models (like GPT). 2. the new name of their free service (like ChatGPT), gives access to Pro 1.0 but not Ultra 1.0. 3. the new name of the Generative AI tools in Google Workspace. Gemini Advanced – the…

It’s sad that a company of very smart people can’t figure out coherent naming. Can you imagine Apple causing confusion like this? I know it’s not a like-for-like comparison, but everything Apple does it seems like they have a grand strategy that’s clear for everyone to see. Things build up in a modular way to fit a big puzzle. Google, on the other hand, constantly makes up things on an ad hoc basis.

> Messy branding is now par for the course at Apple. The iPad line alone is something out of a Dell catalog: iPad, iPad 10thgen, iPad Air, iPad Mini, iPad Pro.

a comment from another thread this morning- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39300741

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by ysofunny »

ra7 wrote: post #334
tarvaina wrote: post #299

Did I get this right? Bard – old name of their generative AI service, to be called Gemini Duet AI – old name for their generative AI in Google Workspace, to be called Gemini Gemini – three things: 1. the name of their models (like GPT). 2. the new name of their free service (like ChatGPT), gives access to Pro 1.0 but not Ultra 1.0. 3. the new name of the Generative AI tools in Google Workspace. Gemini Advanced – the…

It’s sad that a company of very smart people can’t figure out coherent naming. Can you imagine Apple causing confusion like this? I know it’s not a like-for-like comparison, but everything Apple does it seems like they have a grand strategy that’s clear for everyone to see. Things build up in a modular way to fit a big puzzle. Google, on the other hand, constantly makes up things on an ad hoc basis.

naming things is hard

is one of the cultural difference between a computer-first logical mindset contrasted with the mathematics-first mindset

the mathematics first mentality does not properly recognize the importance and the difficulty of having good names for things, whereas the computological view recognizes both: the importance and the difficulty

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by ec109685 »

druskacik wrote: post #145

Prompt: Spell the word lollipop backwards. Gemini: The word "lollipop" spelled backwards is: popillol I hope this sweet treat of a word brightens your day! I'm impressed. However, it still fails on "How many words are in your response to this?".

Often some of the most impressive feats are just parlor tricks.

E.g. Gemini might have been trained on data like this: https://www.google.com/search?q=Spell+the+word+lollipop+back...

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by thesuitonym »

ra7 wrote: post #334
tarvaina wrote: post #299

Did I get this right? Bard – old name of their generative AI service, to be called Gemini Duet AI – old name for their generative AI in Google Workspace, to be called Gemini Gemini – three things: 1. the name of their models (like GPT). 2. the new name of their free service (like ChatGPT), gives access to Pro 1.0 but not Ultra 1.0. 3. the new name of the Generative AI tools in Google Workspace. Gemini Advanced – the…

It’s sad that a company of very smart people can’t figure out coherent naming. Can you imagine Apple causing confusion like this? I know it’s not a like-for-like comparison, but everything Apple does it seems like they have a grand strategy that’s clear for everyone to see. Things build up in a modular way to fit a big puzzle. Google, on the other hand, constantly makes up things on an ad hoc basis.

It seems to be something all large software companies struggle with. The product team comes up with some cool or interesting thing, gives it a decent name, then some marketing manager trying to justify their position decides everything needs to be rebranded under the same umbrella, and a wave of product renames gets started, but never fully finished. Then, two to three years later, some marketing manager needs to justify their position again, and so decides to rebrand everything under a new name, even though the last name change hasn't even been fully finished yet.

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Post by leblancfg »

AdrienBrault wrote: post #186

Gemini Ultra is not available in France, even though it is in all neighboring countries: Germany, Spain, Belgium, Luxembourg, Switzerland, and Italy. Is that because of french legislation, or Mistral? ;-)

I'm like 98% sure it's the former. Geofencing would only be a minor inconvenience to the latter.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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Post by lobsterthief »

kevinventullo wrote: post #350
ra7 wrote: post #334

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s sad that a company of very smart people can’t figure out coherent naming. Can you imagine Apple causing confusion like this? I know it’s not a like-for-like comparison, but everything Apple does it seems like they have a grand strategy that’s clear for everyone to see. Things build up in a modular way to fit a big puzzle. Google, on the other hand, constantly makes up things on an ad hoc basis.

Maybe not quite the same, but I will point out that “Apple TV” and “Apple TV+” are not just two distinct products, but are in fact entirely different categories of product. One is a piece of hardware akin to a Roku. The other is a streaming service akin to Netflix.

Apple TV is also an iOS app, macOS app, tvOS app, and [other generic TV OS] app which allows you to access Apple TV+ content if you have a subscription, but otherwise lets you access services connected to your Apple TV [hardware].

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Post by surajrmal »

daxfohl wrote: post #352
seydor wrote: post #301

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I take it for granted that all these services are going to be free. They are a goldmine for behavioral and persuasion engineers. I just hope we end up with at least a duopoly this time instead of monopoly

There could be a paid tier, maybe running 24/7 "thinking" on topics you ask for rather than just answering spot questions. Or more resources committed to a "mixture of experts" model, etc.

The article mentioned that while Gemini is free, Gemini advanced is $19.99/month.
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