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Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by anta40 » Sat, Jan 20, 2024, 4:29 PM UTC

jjulius wrote: post #258

screye wrote: post #231

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I mostly agree, but this tool is for spotify. Spotify is about as convieinient as a streaming music platform gets. That being said, most people (including me) happily pay for spotify, so your point still stands. I refuse to pay for a streaming platform that's not Netflix or prime. The former benefits from being grand fathered in and the latter is a free bonus on something I would buy anyway. It also sucks that cancel…

>Spotify is about as convieinient as a streaming music platform gets. Convenient for users, but you'd be hard-pressed to find artists who are content with the payments they get from Spotify. And that's across the spectrum, from world-famous pop artists to indie artists struggling to get heard. I'm huge into music so I'm "OK" with Spotify for the sake of convenience and all that, but if people are really digging a pie…

Indeed. Spotify is convenient but the audio files are locked and cannot be easily copied to another devices.

Buying the CD/audio files don't pose that issue.

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by wombat-man » Sat, Jan 20, 2024, 4:29 PM UTC

swozey wrote: post #343

wombat-man wrote: post #329

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Yeah I just don't understand how paramount+ is so bad. I've unsubscribed but I got it to watch a tv show on a plane, and so downloaded it onto my phone. The app would NOT play the video on the plane. At first I thought for some reason it needed to connect to the internet. Then after landing it wouldn't play even with the internet. Then there's the chromecast app. I want to watch an episode of survivor, a show with 45…

I had the same thing happen on a flight last year so when I got home I tested every streaming app I could think of and a bunch of them removed their download feature from the last time I used it or they put it behind a connection requirement like you said. I forget if there's a second one, I know Netflix says you can download on its ad but I don't have netflix to test. The one I know for sure that you can download an…

It's just gotten to the point where I optimize for laziness. When I'm at home I watch on the streaming apps for the most part, because it's easy.

When I'm traveling, I download tv shows I think I want to watch and stick it in VLC on my iPad. The exception being movies from the apple TV app. I have had no problems renting and downloading the video through that.

Maybe they fixed it, but ever since I downloaded a bunch in the HBO app only to find it would NOT play once I was in the air, I just gotta do what I gotta do to be able to actually watch in flight.

Oh man, and the other thing apps will do, is if you're not careful, they'll download some awful low res version of the show by default. ugh.

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by MPSimmons » Sat, Jan 20, 2024, 4:29 PM UTC

swozey wrote: post #179

The lengths that literal engineers will go to to not have to pay $10/mo for music or $3 to rent a movie in 4k immediately. Can't believe I have adult friends who make 70-300k and they still pirate based on money, not quality/directors-cuts/anti-cheats, etc. I quit pirating when I got a real job and could afford to pay developers and movie teams for their effort. I write software. I want to get paid too, right? Why sh…

Agreed. I have bought many many things on Apple iTunes store, and I have an archive of MP3s that I've collected that I don't want to lose, and I also pay for Spotify because it's the most convenient service for listening to music and it'll probably the be last one I cancel before I move into a cardboard box.

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by sudobash1 » Sat, Jan 20, 2024, 4:29 PM UTC

alerighi wrote: post #344

swozey wrote: post #179

The lengths that literal engineers will go to to not have to pay $10/mo for music or $3 to rent a movie in 4k immediately. Can't believe I have adult friends who make 70-300k and they still pirate based on money, not quality/directors-cuts/anti-cheats, etc. I quit pirating when I got a real job and could afford to pay developers and movie teams for their effort. I write software. I want to get paid too, right? Why sh…

It's not the 10$ a month for Spotify: 10$ to Spotify, 10 to Netflix, another 10 to Disney+, to Now TV/SKY (in my country), to DAZN, to Prime Video, etc. If you sum all the services you have to pay you spend easily more than 100$ a month in streaming services, that is 1200$ a year that is for most person in my country a month of work! And the others would rather spend if for other things, such as a vacation. Finally p…

> using these proprietary services on Linux or Raspberry Pi etc is not possibile

I can't speak to Raspberry Pi (and other non-x86 boards), but on my PC I can listen to Spotify just fine. I don't even have to use Chrome. It works as well on Firefox.

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by gtirloni » Sat, Jan 20, 2024, 4:30 PM UTC

__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #313

swozey wrote: post #179

The lengths that literal engineers will go to to not have to pay $10/mo for music or $3 to rent a movie in 4k immediately. Can't believe I have adult friends who make 70-300k and they still pirate based on money, not quality/directors-cuts/anti-cheats, etc. I quit pirating when I got a real job and could afford to pay developers and movie teams for their effort. I write software. I want to get paid too, right? Why sh…

It's not about saving a few bucks, it's about taking responsibility for the consequences of your spending. If $1 out of $10 goes to supporting the artist and the other $9 goes towards stripping users of the ability to control their own devices, or towards other zero/negative sum games being played by the platform in the spirit of moat building, then paying for content through normal channels is doing more harm than g…

> If there was a way to configure my players to fingerprint the content and send money to the artist as I play it

There isn't.

I fail to see how piracy helps artists today.

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by __MatrixMan__ » Sat, Jan 20, 2024, 4:30 PM UTC

CoastalCoder wrote: post #305

beej71 wrote: post #298

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Some programs aren't available on DVD in my region. But I suppose DVD players are cheap, so people can just buy one per region. ... Or does piracy sound like a better experience?

It probably comes down one's personal ethics, views about civic virtue, etc. I want my neighbor's pile of firewood. They probably wouldn't miss one or two logs, but I have other reasons for not taking any. I'm not trying to persuade anyone that my view is correct, I'm just saying that I think this is one aspect of how different people approach the question of how to obtain digital entertainment.

What does your personal ethics say about paying somebody to build a system that prohibits certain kinds of people from receiving certain kinds of information? Even if a trickle of that money makes it to the artist, doesn't that seems like a technology that's ripe for abuse?

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by swozey » Sat, Jan 20, 2024, 4:31 PM UTC

CoastalCoder wrote: post #281

junon wrote: post #247

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Living in Germany, but I'm an american. Signed up for Crunchy Roll. Most the shows my friends are recommending are region locked. The remaining ones are mostly German-dubbed only, with no subtitles. Most don't have original Japanese either. Only a handful I want to watch actually have subs or English dubs. It's not like I don't want to pay for this stuff but when it's a huge conditional tree of if I'm going to have a…

Interesting that you mention Crunchyroll. I subscribe to both CR and Spotify im the U.S., and one thing they have in common is terrible user interfaces (IMHO). I would be so excited if CR provided an API to let subscribers write their own clients.

Yeah CRs UX is bad. Check out this chrome extension its a huge QOL jump https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/mal-sync/kekjfbackd...

My other huge complaint about CR is it will just be missing a season of a show. I tried to watch one and it had only seasons 2-3-4 etc.

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by sergiotapia » Sat, Jan 20, 2024, 4:31 PM UTC

znpy wrote: post #336

sergiotapia wrote: post #279

Reason #1,000,000 why I'm glad I'm on Android. Can't even install this thing on iphone. Works great btw, using this app on my desktop and pixel thank you!

Reason #1,000,001 i’m glad i’m european: soon thanks to the digital markets act I’ll be able to side load this app onto my iPhone.

That sounds excellent, hopefully it's hard for Apple to maintain both set ups and just go global, like they did for their chargers.

Re: Spotube: Open-source Spotify-Youtube client

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Post by pipeline_peak » Sat, Jan 20, 2024, 4:32 PM UTC

3abiton wrote: post #310

pipeline_peak wrote: post #293

This is definitely the sort of thing that forces “evil” companies to close their API’s

I don't think companies need more excuses to do it. Look at reddit, X, etc ... I wouldn't be surprised if Spotify made their API a "paid" service.

I’m surprised it’s open to begin with.

Their recommendation component is one of the few reasons I pay. Everything I ever wanted to hear is on YouTube.

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Post by MPSimmons » Sat, Jan 20, 2024, 4:32 PM UTC

jjulius wrote: post #294

selfmodruntime wrote: post #283

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>Convenient for users, but you'd be hard-pressed to find artists who are content with the payments they get from Spotify. And that's across the spectrum, from world-famous pop artists to indie artists struggling to get heard. You're aware that you're in a thread for a tool which circumvents payments?

Well aware, but thanks for that snark. Might as well still ask people to support artists they love in a thread related to pirating, right?

I think it's mostly orthogonal. Pirating music only takes money away from artists in the case that you were going to buy their music, and don't now because you downloaded a file, which is probably the vast minority of downloads, I would guess.

On the other hand, there are a ton of ways to support artists if you have the means, whether it's attending shows, buying merch, or what have you, none of which can be properly "pirated" in this sense.