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Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by rightbyte »

kuerbel wrote: post #238
CraigJPerry wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> boil down to surface rust on the braking discs You don’t fail for surface rust, it’s not a check that’s done. You fail for dangerous imbalance of braking force. When the car is run on the drum roller (rolling road powers the cars wheels) and the inspector presses the brakes, the braking force applied by the car is measured. You get a fail if your braking performance is likely to unsettle the car in high braking fo…

The manual clearly states that the breaking discs need to be cleaned every, what was it, 25k km. Thats a job for a mechanic. Also in the DIY section it says that the brakes should be burnished as well.

You mean grinded down? I don't think you can clean the discs when they are rusty.

If a workshop has to do it the rust is quite bad and there are groves. Otherwise you can use the pads.

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Post by beedeebeedee »

mlrtime wrote: post #275
oblio wrote: post #223

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There is this paradox of technology where despite a ton of technology it seems that productivity is not shooting up for society as a whole. I'll try to find the article. It looks more like technology is > wealth, which is SUPER scary since technology inherently allows concentration. Facebook killed 1 million newspapers, yay, now 1 American corporation can siphon all those profits to... no one even knows where, since…

Redistributing is not a problem that needs to be solved, raising the floor is. The delta between floor and ceiling does not matter. Lift everyone up, this is not 0 sum.

> The delta between floor and ceiling does not matter

Yes it does. Relative power is a thing, even in a democracy.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by andsoitis »

idontknowifican wrote: post #336
dgellow wrote: post #241

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How is Tesla still considered a startup? It’s a 20 years old company with a 80billion valuation and more than 100k employees Edit: I even missed a zero, it has a 800billion valuation

tesla is a startup because it allows less strict oversight from the public. “startup” seems to now simply mean “burn cash until market dominance” or “regulations have mot caught up to our industry”. it is not an actual startup, just a court of public opinion one, allowing it to do shady shit under the guise of progress at any cost

> tesla is a startup because it allows less strict oversight from the public.

Tesla is a publicly traded company, subject to all the rules and regulations of the territories it operates in.

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Post by myko »

cynix wrote: post #203
yareal wrote: post #53

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We had a model s, the software crashed constantly. Or just locked up. Nothing like having your dashboard go black at 70 mph to instill confidence in your car.

Weird, I’ve had my Model S for 8 years, and it never locked up once. Is yours a MCU1 model with problematic eMMC that has worn out?

My 2016 Model S has had this happen a few times. I have even upgraded to the new computer (so the touch screen no longer feels like a Motorola Xoom), and I occasionally get this issue - but it's much rarer today than it was pre-upgrade.

Major complaint here: when it does happen, it takes minutes to reset, and you can't see your speed and get no audible cues for what is going on with the car. It is an extremely dangerous failure state.

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Post by api »

bmitc wrote: post #39

Is this really a surprise? There are physical realities, and a single company can't suddenly reinvent a century of industry experience with some Silicon Valley pixie dust and government subsidies. Tesla, like many startups, is just rediscovering what it takes to build a car and what other companies have already figured out. Bringing a new drivetrain is not enough.

Tesla was necessary to tip the EV market though by bringing that new drive train, because legacy car companies would have mostly dragged their feet on EVs for as long as possible.

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Post by hallqv »

bmitc wrote: post #39

Is this really a surprise? There are physical realities, and a single company can't suddenly reinvent a century of industry experience with some Silicon Valley pixie dust and government subsidies. Tesla, like many startups, is just rediscovering what it takes to build a car and what other companies have already figured out. Bringing a new drivetrain is not enough.

The incumbent US car brands barely does any manufacturing themselves anymore, they are mainly big procurement + assemly + marketing blobs.

Not very conducive to driving product innovation.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by ttymck »

underdeserver wrote: post #132
seanieb wrote: post #30

Tesla Model 3, owner here. The list of reasons why I will never buy a Tesla again is too long, but they pretty much all boil down to cheap parts and poor build quality. That goes for their software also, absolute junk.

Can you please elaborate on that list? I've had a Model 3 for two and a half years and it's still the best driving experience I've ever had.

What else have you driven?

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Post by madaxe_again »

cogogo wrote: post #186
madaxe_again wrote: post #157

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VW don’t even support CarPlay though. I am stuck with an android POS that literally does nothing other than take up dashboard space, and a phone glued to the front of it. Can’t even listen to music as the tuner has never worked, and Bluetooth has a range of about 2cm. Dealer said it’s working as intended.

where do you live that VW doesn’t support car play or did they drop support? My last two vws going back to 2017 in the US support it and so have vws i’ve rented in Spain.

Portugal. 2018 Amarok.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by torginus »

bmitc wrote: post #39

Is this really a surprise? There are physical realities, and a single company can't suddenly reinvent a century of industry experience with some Silicon Valley pixie dust and government subsidies. Tesla, like many startups, is just rediscovering what it takes to build a car and what other companies have already figured out. Bringing a new drivetrain is not enough.

Counterpoint: The new crop of BYD EVs seem to be really well built - up with European/Asian brands in their market segment.

They still lag somewhat in other areas (drivetrain efficiency, software, ADAS etc.), but to say that a new company can't build cars well is simply just not true.

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Post by hef19898 »

hallqv wrote: post #366
bmitc wrote: post #39

Is this really a surprise? There are physical realities, and a single company can't suddenly reinvent a century of industry experience with some Silicon Valley pixie dust and government subsidies. Tesla, like many startups, is just rediscovering what it takes to build a car and what other companies have already figured out. Bringing a new drivetrain is not enough.

The incumbent US car brands barely does any manufacturing themselves anymore, they are mainly big procurement + assemly + marketing blobs. Not very conducive to driving product innovation.

Not considering assembly to be manufacturing is an interesting take. Counter example: Apple (innivation and all that) and Foxconn.

Assembly absolutely is manufacturing.

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