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Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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> and the uploaders need all the viewers Not at all. Non-paying viewers are worth less than zero. > Or rather, sure they'd happily collect a subscription from everyone AND still show ads and collect data. > Which is pretty much what they do actually. What are you talking about? There are no ads with premium.

> What are you talking about? There are no ads with premium. These threads always have a bunch of this weird type of person who doesn't understand that ads from YouTube and ads that content creators put in their videos are different things. I can't tell if they're being intentionally obtuse, or just legitimately do not understand how financial transactions work. Maybe they're teenagers who haven't worked a job before…

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Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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What about someone who gets several million views per video they upload? You would need one hell of a peertube instance with a great CDN to manage that so people all over the world can watch it without constant buffering. Peertube technically has P2P, but these days with strict NAT or CGNAT being common good luck getting any kind of P2P connection going for the majority of people. Plus a lot of people on both home an…

> You would need one hell of a peertube instance with a great CDN to manage that so people all over the world Peertube relies on peer-to-peer data exchange, so the server loads are much lower than you imply: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38533454

Yeah I addressed that in my comment too. The link you sent doesn't show any data that I can see? It would be neat to see someone actually test peertube under heavy load with data to back it up.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Youtube premium is £12.99 / month or £19.99/month for a family plan. That really doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

To know whether that is unreasonable or not you'd have to compare it to the cost of providing you that service, taking into account that youtube is just a delivery mechanism and so is infrastructure , not content. And what is or is not affordable is really dependent on where you live and that kind of money is a very large amount in some places. And especially in those places access to youtube for educational purposes…

Why would the cost of providing YT be relevant? I look at the value I get, and YT Premium is a no brainer.

Here in South Africa YT Premium Family is R109.99/mo (5.83 USD). By comparison, Netflix is R159/mo. Minimum wage is R25.42/hr.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Then use Firefox and/or non chromium based browsers. Don't play the game. It's not a new game. Remember when Linux was "evil commie software"?

I like Firefox, but isn't Firefox funded by Google?

In the sense that Google pays for search engine placement, yes. They also pay Apple for the same thing - I'd hesitate to say that gives them much influence over either Firefox or Safari.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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what i’m reading from these comments: we will do anything, including leaving youtube, but for sure we will not be either watching ads or paying for content.

The problem is, how these things sometimes go is: you are fed up of ads so you start paying them. Then a year or two later you get ads as a paying user too. There’s a long history of paid products doing this. Look at Windows, Smart TVs, etc…

Then stop paying in 2 years, meanwhile you will have ad free videos. Problem solved.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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> What are you talking about? There are no ads with premium. These threads always have a bunch of this weird type of person who doesn't understand that ads from YouTube and ads that content creators put in their videos are different things. I can't tell if they're being intentionally obtuse, or just legitimately do not understand how financial transactions work. Maybe they're teenagers who haven't worked a job before…

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Sorry if I wasn't clear. I am agreeing with you and expanding on your comment. Not disagreeing.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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I pay for YouTube to support the platform and creators. If you don't pay for a service, you aren't the customer you are the product. Google may need to shut down the free viewership of most YouTube videos unless the creator pays for them to be hosted or the viewers sign up for a subscription. The ad model is clearly failing.

Just because you are paying for a service doesn't mean that companies won't double dip or triple dip by either showing you ads or selling your data.

Yeah, movie theaters figured that out 30 years or so ago when they realized besides trailers (which okay, are ads of a sort), they could subject viewers who paid for a ticket to 20 minutes of ads for things like M&Ms and Coke before even the trailers begin. It's gotten to the point that you might as well show up 30 minutes after a movie is scheduled to begin as the movie itself won't have started yet.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Video as a format seems drastically overused to me. When I go to the internet to find some information, I either get ai generated essays of great length and no substance, or a link to YouTube. I'm not wasting my time watching a video even if it is sped up, just to learn something that could have been cleanly represented as a short document. If more people start using documents instead of videos where they stare at yo…

Agreed, nothing more annoying than a video where a 10 line web page would suffice. And google - coincidentally, of course - ranks that video much higher than the 10 line webpage.

I use ddg and it still manages to be videos, and ddg seems to have a problem filtering ai spam pages. Is there a ubo list for that?

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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Huh? Why would it be immoral? I'm producing free content myself, e.g. my open source repositories have permissive licenses like MIT, I run a blog, have put some of my music online, etc. Seriously, chances are almost 100% percent that you are massively benefiting right now from completely free of charge software that some guys developed for free in their spare time (perhaps even decades ago) - how immoral of you!

What are these mental gymnastics? You're practically saying nobody is allowed to make money for their content because you don't. Where is the logic in this?

You misunderstood me entirely. People can sell their content for whatever price they like. For example, I sell my science fiction and fantasy novels although I could give them away for free. I also used to sell shareware in the past and plan to sell commercial, proprietary software in the future.

People can freely decide whether they want to sell the content they've created or give it away for free. If it's the former, they should sell it, and if it's the latter, they should give it away for free. They just cannot and ought not rely on business models that restrict how people display information on their devices that has been sent to them voluntarily. As I said in the beginning, I have no quirks with Youtube going subscription-only.

Re: Does uBlock Origin bypass the latest YouTube anti-adblock script?

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> You would need one hell of a peertube instance with a great CDN to manage that so people all over the world Peertube relies on peer-to-peer data exchange, so the server loads are much lower than you imply: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38533454

Yeah I addressed that in my comment too. The link you sent doesn't show any data that I can see? It would be neat to see someone actually test peertube under heavy load with data to back it up.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38444491
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