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I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)

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Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)

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Post by pid-1 »

leptons wrote: post #337
pid-1 wrote: post #77

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It basically doesn't have the main thing that makes Cloud Run so valuable. Speaking more generally, it seems AWS is allergic to creating products that scale to zero nowadays.

I've paid $0.00 for my many AWS Lambda functions, and will always pay $0 so long as I keep it under 1 million executions per month (and AWS keeps this free tier going). I also use SimpleDB, SES, and other services that also cost $0.00/mo. The only thing I pay for is S3, which totals about $0.30 per month, for a few gigs of data. And I'm very happy with AWS, It's been costing me less than $6 per year to build out and…

Sure. Just note all products you mentioned are rather old. When AWS announces anything serverless nowadays, things do not scale to zero.

Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)

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Post by pid-1 »

ramraj07 wrote: post #336
pid-1 wrote: post #77

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It basically doesn't have the main thing that makes Cloud Run so valuable. Speaking more generally, it seems AWS is allergic to creating products that scale to zero nowadays.

Scaling down to zero appeals to amateur side project folks - no enterprise customer probably cares about that marginal expense here..

According to my anedoctal experience, that's grossly wrong across many industries.

Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)

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Post by akoboldfrying »

Decabytes wrote: post #349

In my opinion all of GCPs advantages are eliminated by the fact that it is a Google product and I wouldn’t want to trust my business/livelihood to google. And this is not just an opinion I share, it’s the opinion of the large company I work for

Do you (ETA: and your company) feel that way about Google, but not about Amazon or Microsoft? Genuinely curious.

Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)

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Post by akoboldfrying »

badrequest wrote: post #255
nerdjon wrote: post #25

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For a fairly simple setup AWS automates a lot of things. If I just want an EC2 instance and a database, the VPC already exists and there is now even a button on an RDS that says something like "connect to ec2" which sets up the security groups on both for you. However the argument against using GCP has already been stated in this thread multiple times. - Will it exist in 3-5 years. Google has a reputation for a reaso…

I've been watching folks here on HN speculate that Google will kill GCP "any minute now" for at least the last 4 years, so ya'll can keep holding your breath, I will be having fun deploying things for 1/10th the price of AWS.

Maybe they'll kill Ads next?

Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)

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Post by jillesvangurp »

anisov wrote: post #312
QasimK wrote: post #310

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I’ve used Cloud Run and it does allow for background threads.

I think they introduced this feature lately: https://cloud.google.com/run/docs/configuring/cpu-allocation you can set --no-cpu-throttling which keeps the cpu allocated even if the request lifetime is over. Used it for Background tasks

Right; that is indeed new. We might give this another try.

Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)

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Post by indymike »

resolutebat wrote: post #33
vlastik wrote: post #31

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That's exactly why would I newer support opting for GCP. With AWS, we have our account manager, whom I can call and he actually has some powers and can fix and do stuff for us.

Surprise surprise, paid GCP customers get the same.

> paid GCP customers get the same

I think paid may be relative with GCP.

Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)

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rossjudson wrote: post #176
jsnell wrote: post #147

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Sure, sure. I totally get where you're coming from. By the way, how's the Fire Phone holding up for you these days? I assume it's still working well and powerful enough to do your web searches on a9.com, and read sites like the Amapedia and DPReviews. Do you happen to know how many of the Alexa.com top500 sites it can browse, or do you need to ask on Amazon Askville? But I know it won't be able to play Amazon's hit g…

Possibly the best comment I have read on this topic...like ever. Do Microsoft next!

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Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)

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Post by Decabytes »

akoboldfrying wrote: post #363
Decabytes wrote: post #349

In my opinion all of GCPs advantages are eliminated by the fact that it is a Google product and I wouldn’t want to trust my business/livelihood to google. And this is not just an opinion I share, it’s the opinion of the large company I work for

Do you (ETA: and your company) feel that way about Google, but not about Amazon or Microsoft? Genuinely curious.

We are a Microsoft shop now but used to be an Amazon shop. We don't feel the same way about Amazon and Microsoft as Google. I've seen plenty of people post on here or Twitter about how they've been locked out of a Google account. When exploring LLM solutions Google wasn't even on the table and killedbygoogle was referenced in that company meeting. Sure there is a killed by Microsoft website but if you look at the Microsoft one it spans 34 years and 158 products, while Google's spans 17 years and includes 293.

That timeline alone gives me more confidence in Microsoft over Google. Personally there are only two products of Googles I feel comfortable relying on. Google Chrome and Go.

Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)

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Post by dartos »

steveBK123 wrote: post #352
neurostimulant wrote: post #326

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GCP and AWS are cheap for small and low traffics applications. But once your usage passes a certain point, you'll quickly find out they're more expensive than other vendors. The problem is, once you reached that point, you're probably already locked yourself in by using their specific offerings not found anywhere else. Limiting yourself to plain vps/containers/k8s might help preventing lock in.

And yet many large enterprises with existing data centers have made forays into cloud only to discover how stunningly expensive it is once the free credits run out.

It’s a classic walled garden strategy
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