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Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome

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Post by giancarlostoro »

tamimio wrote: post #314
giancarlostoro wrote: post #86

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I wanted to add a new user account on my new Windows 11 system. It came with Windows Home right. So when I went to add one, it told me that feature is disabled because I have poor man's Windows, go to this other program. So I go to program B. Guess what program B told me? It told me I was using poor man's Windows to go back to program A to add a new user. I had to do it via command line. After I was about to remove m…

I use linux as a daily driver since probably around 2006, but to say it’s a replacement for windows, it’s just not the case, your example for “readiness” is video games, a lot don’t care about that but rather other productivity software, Adobe suite and Adobe acrobat, MS suite, some CAD/3D software, a lot of engineering software like simulators and what not, and you either have crappy alternatives (like anything to r…

I can run Discord, I can run Firefox, Chrome, the only thing I can't run is Visual Studio natively, but I can run VS Code. I can run Rider and .NET natively though, so there is that, and a lot of things I like work better on Linux (specifically Postgres and a few Linux first type of projects, gnu utils arguably because it is OOTB on Linux).

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Post by hot_gril »

mythz wrote: post #335
hot_gril wrote: post #245

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Microsoft stuff is a whole separate world that I've never explored, so I was surprised to learn that .NET isn't just for developing Windows applications. What's your workflow with that, and is it compromised in any way by developing outside of Microsoft's platform?

.NETs (fka .NET Core) is cross platform since inception and now runs fast and flawlessly on Linux and macOS. I only use it to build server (i.e. non GUI) Apps. The tooling and workflow is just as good on Windows as I’m able to use Jet Brains Rider / VS Code to develop .NET projects on both. Having a full native Unix Terminal and using tools like Docker is nicer on macOS, installing and building OSS projects is better…

> Finder is worse than Explorer which is IMO the biggest drawback.

As a longtime Mac user, I agree. Quicklook is nice, but that's about it.

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Post by Incipient »

Every time I open a google service in edge, I get a nag to use Chrome.

Every month or so Android nags me to turn on photos backup, messages nags me to use RCS messages or whatever.

I can't turn off any of these nags and they keep popping up regularly.

That's a lot more annoying for me.

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Post by tremon »

mrguyorama wrote: post #272
gumballindie wrote: post #65

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Why not Linux (depending on your line of work). Wider hardware choice, easier to upgrade, and no corporate oversight. Doesn't cover all use cases but it's a good option these days.

>Wider hardware choice You're joking right? Sure, something built in 2002 will probably still work well in Linux, but that's often the case for Windows, and on a Windows system, the hardware AND the proprietary software it came with will probably still work. Meanwhile, in Linux land, if you don't buy very very very specific hardware you can never hope to have functional sleep.

You're joking right?

Not as much as you.

Windows 11 won't (officially) install on any system lacking a TPM v2.0. The only reason that Windows 11 can be installed without hassle on modern hardware is because every motherboard manufacturer started scrambling to outfit their systems with such a TPM by default. Also, for Windows Vista they completely rewrote their driver model for many devices, which means that no printer/scanner/sound card/graphics card from the year you mention has functioning drivers for any current Windows version.

So no, something built in 2002 will most definitely not run current Windows. Even most systems built in 2018 will not run Windows 11.

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Post by tremon »

yread wrote: post #230
mythz wrote: post #53

I'm a big fan of WSL, which has kept me on Windows for years more than I otherwise would have. But I can't stand the scammy adware infused OS Windows has become and will be moving to Apple Silicon full-time when the next gen M3 Desktop hardware is out. As a recent M2 Macbook Air owner I'm surprised how much software supports ARM/Apple Silicon natively, where everything I use daily as a .NET developer worked OOB [1].…

can't you just install the enterprise version or whatever it's called. The real 'Pro'

Enterprise version is not available for purchase in single-license; FAFAIK, you need a licensing agreement first.

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Post by tremon »

tivert wrote: post #357
NiloCK wrote: post #350

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(modulo assumptions based on your being a reader of this site) - installing a dual boot linux on your existing Windows machine will take you a couple of hours. 2 <<< ∞

> (modulo assumptions based on your being a reader of this site) - installing a dual boot linux on your existing Windows machine will take you a couple of hours. Doing a fresh install of something is like the smallest, most insignificant amount of work involved when doing a migration. 99% of the needed time will be solving dozens of problems like "can I get my P-touch label maker working with Linux," and if can I, do…

The journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step.

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Post by askonomm »

coffeeling wrote: post #345
askonomm wrote: post #145

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Yeah, totally agree - but I've tried a ton of different distros, and the UI inconsistencies are there as well, the fractional scaling support (or lack thereof) is much worse than on Windows, Gnome feels like it's made with CSS and JavaScript or something, and doesn't feel very "fluent" whereas KDE is clearly not touched by any professional designers. Then the apps look absolutely horrid (e.g Electron apps in Gnome),…

GNOME is made with JavaScript. Not the app windows, but GNOME Shell is mostly JS.

Wait, so the Shell is a web browser? Jesus, no wonder it feels clunky and non-native.

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Post by knighthack »

mythz wrote: post #53

I'm a big fan of WSL, which has kept me on Windows for years more than I otherwise would have. But I can't stand the scammy adware infused OS Windows has become and will be moving to Apple Silicon full-time when the next gen M3 Desktop hardware is out. As a recent M2 Macbook Air owner I'm surprised how much software supports ARM/Apple Silicon natively, where everything I use daily as a .NET developer worked OOB [1].…

Younger kids are getting used to Linux via Steam and the Steam Deck, and support for games on Linux are increasing constantly. I'd wager that the upcoming generation will be less kept to Windows, which will be a good thing.

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Post by inkcapmushroom »

mrguyorama wrote: post #296
inkcapmushroom wrote: post #222

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My work laptop with Windows just got a notification yesterday requesting me to install some game from the XBox Live store which certainly seemed like a bad use of system notifications. Haven't got any popups though.

Why would microsoft send you a notification about a random third party game?

I think they're just trying to push their game store as a Steam alternative.
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