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Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by busymom0 »

halfbrite wrote: post #247
busymom0 wrote: post #195

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That’s something I am trying to solve with my upcoming site LimeReader. The user data gets submitted to multiple servers and retrieved from multiple servers. Users can add their own servers if they like too. I was hoping to have the beta already but I am now hoping to have it out this weekend. For those curious, I am the developer of HACK, one of the top rated hacker news apps for iOS and Android. https://limereader.…

Love HACK. Would you be willing to add a Six Colors icon like Apollo has? Looking forward to LimeReader!

Thanks for the feedback. I will add that icon in the next update.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by johnnyanmac »

guraf wrote: post #148
throwaway630000 wrote: post #66

Probably would have been interesting to relaunch the Apollo with its own backend as a direct competitor to Reddit. I think one simple push notification would've pulled millions of the most active users over to the new service

Apollo had just over ONE million users. Only 540k of whom were active. And significantly less that paid the fee needed to be able to post. And most active according to whom? People keep saying Reddit is committing suicide. Do y'all truly believe that most of Reddit useful content was created on mobile? In Apollo? The app that forced you to pay if you wanted to submit content to Reddit? Get real.

>Do y'all truly believe that most of Reddit useful content was created on mobile?

These days where 50% or reddit traffic is on Mobile? Yes.

>In Apollo?

No.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by johnnyanmac »

basch wrote: post #243
guraf wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apollo had just over ONE million users. Only 540k of whom were active. And significantly less that paid the fee needed to be able to post. And most active according to whom? People keep saying Reddit is committing suicide. Do y'all truly believe that most of Reddit useful content was created on mobile? In Apollo? The app that forced you to pay if you wanted to submit content to Reddit? Get real.

If all the rejected apps banded together onto one shared backend, they would have more people than any of the new movers people have scattered to.

Probably. But its a prisoner dilemma and part of the reason apps shut down was because they lacked the time to react. There's no way they'd have an alternative ready "in time" even if we all agreed on an alternative and made a big push for it.

And "all agreeing" on the internet is a herculean task to begin with. Some want federation, some want centralization. Some want memes and others want serious discussion. Some don't even want to leave reddit period.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by lucb1e »

BHSPitMonkey wrote: post #138
lucb1e wrote: post #90

Oh that's dumb. I forgot to check my inbox before midnight. I had offered Tildes invites and don't have the password to that account (but have been logged in since years, can access the auth token, etc., but reddit doesn't want you to recover from this scenario, so that's gone forever). Well... anyone here needs a Tildes invite?

I'd love one; Hope you don't mind if I send you an email in lieu of posting mine here?

For the record: That's fine! Contact info is on my profile for a reason :). As you'll have seen, I have replied to the email!

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by lucb1e »

s777 wrote: post #252
lucb1e wrote: post #90

Oh that's dumb. I forgot to check my inbox before midnight. I had offered Tildes invites and don't have the password to that account (but have been logged in since years, can access the auth token, etc., but reddit doesn't want you to recover from this scenario, so that's gone forever). Well... anyone here needs a Tildes invite?

I'll take an invite please

Empty profile, not sure how to send you one without having someone else snatch it. Please email me via the address shown to you on https://lucb1e.com/email-address/

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by johnnyanmac »

paulcole wrote: post #102

Narwhal (a 3rd-party iOS Reddit app) is still going and it turns out not biting the hand that feeds you works pretty well. Respect to the Apollo guy for having the confidence that he could get Reddit to back down through a well-organized PR campaign. But he could’ve had a decent business if he’d just backed down, given in a little, and not tried to make Spez look like a bigger idiot/liar than he already did. I love a…

Well organized PR campaign? You're giving reddit users and Christian too much credit.

Christian got caught up in this becsuse the Reddit CEO is a walking PR disaster, and Reddit's protests are a cute diversion at best. Anyone wanting to truly damage reddit should have been planning migrations, not shit posts.

>I love a good risky David v. Goliath gamble and would’ve liked to see him win, but sometimes you lose it all.

I don't think Christian is being put out on the street over this decision. You're on Hacker News and think an app dev with almost 15 years of experience is left with nothing?

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he was close to retirement levels of money. At the very least he can have a very long leisurely location before his next venture.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by johnnyanmac »

paulcole wrote: post #159
transcriptase wrote: post #110

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>Well-organized PR campaign. Sure, if you call simply posting his experiences on his own subreddit for his own app a PR campaign. He certainly did a better job than Reddit did, blatantly lying about their conversation, timelines, and motivations for killing 3rd party apps. Reddit is trying to pivot to the TikTok and YouTube comment section population of the internet, while the HN commenter types were simply costing t…

> Sure, if you call simply posting his experiences on his own subreddit for his own app a PR campaign. Yes, this and the organized blackout and anti-Reddit posts among the biggest subreddits is a coordinated PR campaign. Remember that the headline narrative they were pushing was “Reddit is killing 3rd-party apps.” It was buried in walls of text that in fact Reddit was making 3rd-party apps pay more than they wanted t…

>If Reddit was in fact killing 3rd-party apps why does Narwhal still work?

Come back to me in 6 months and see how that statement rings. I wish the best but history serves that Reddit's user have never heen able to put their money where their mouth is. I believe Relay is also doing this, but they seem ready to shut down if users don't pay up.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by ffiirree »

Waterluvian wrote: post #106
extr wrote: post #42

I remember signing up for Reddit as a college freshman. I was a digg user and joined Reddit in the aftermath of that fiasco. I sometimes laugh looking over my post history for the past decade plus. If you read the posts linearly, you can trace my evolution from a kid arguing passionately over politics and culture (things he didn't really know much about), to a more mature young adult who rarely waded into discussions…

If we’re having a wake… I remember when I accidentally became a moderator of /r/science because they asked for variety of domain expertise and I’m a geographer and c’mon… nobody’s a geographer. It was a fun experience. Then became an educational one. Then frustrating. Then thankless. Then I stopped. I’m happy for the lessons. I’m sad it died years ago.

r/science went from being one of the highest quality places on the whole internet... to being like the rest of the internet

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Post by ffiirree »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #345
tim333 wrote: post #286

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As a Reddit user I'm a bit puzzled by these death or Reddit posts. I use Reddit by going to reddit.com with the old settings and it works just the same. Does the death of some third party app really matter? It would be like saying HN is gone because some 3rd party app on it that I've never heard of is gone. Honestly a bit puzzled.

If you want to feel the equivalent impact, try browsing old.reddit on a mobile device. They have actively bastardized and impeded readability in order to force people to the app. Also, NSFW is a entire feat to try and get loaded on a phone. Sometimes it just doesn't even give you an age prompt. And to be honest, I think old.reddit is also on its way out. It's inevitable. So we're going to experience this shit storm a…

I have always used old.reddit on my phone. I use no other reddit client. Just checked it right now and it looks the same as always. If old.reddit.com goes, I'll definitely go too.

I support the protests so I'm trying to use reddit less for news and stuff. But for certain needs I'd scour forums for, since those forums no longer exist, I kind of need to check reddit for some stuff. Things related to my health and such.

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