setting the users against the mods didn't work, so now they're trying to split the mods from each other
from the businesses perspective this is probably the first sensible decision they've made so far
The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen
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My mind immediately went to strike-breaking too. This isn't quite the same as they are targeting a volunteer group that has shown no interest to form a union, but this is so obviously a play out of the union busting handbook. Divide the group, make it seem like only a few select leaders want whatever they are negotiating over, and offering to elevate cooperative people into positions of power if they are willing to p…
Is it not a real strike if the volunteers provide labor? A question for the philosophers, and in the coming years/decades, the lawyers. In the us it is the national labor relations board, after all! Not employement relations
I think it’s something different than a strike and should thus not have any legal protections. Strikes are fair in some sense because workers aren’t being paid during that time (or at the very most by the union coffers) which goes up against the company’s ability to weather the lost revenue during the strike.
In this case, mods can keep subreddits dark without any cost to themselves because they aren’t being paid by Reddit. It’d be like if library volunteers protested by closing the library and stopping any new volunteers from entering by installing a lock on the door. OFC the library is within their rights to break the lock to let other volunteers in.
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I need someone to make an AI-show filter for removing laugh tracks.
It doesn’t work. The pauses are built into the script. It’s worse, it’s far worse. It highlights that the scripts are usually pretty bad. Classic example of a completely unfunny basic show https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jKS3MGriZcs
that show is hilarious without the laugh track
just not in the way the creators intended
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> they're actively hindering others who might wish to take up those responsibilities. Isn't that literally exactly what a strike is? No one crosses the picket line if a sufficient majority agreed to undertake the strike?
Again, not an expert on French law, but in the US you can just hire someone else to do the job in the case of most strikes. pejoratively called scabs.
It's illegal for employers to hire fixed-term employees in this case: https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F34
However, they can have volunteers fill the position: https://www.editions-tissot.fr/droit-travail/jurisprudence-s...
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#366They’re gonna be left with bottom of the barrel mods. It’s a thankless task to begin with - a marginal proposition at best. Add some threats as a thank you for the unpaid work and it becomes downright abusive Who the hell is going to want to mod in that context?
So the mods will stay the same. Got it!
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#367I don’t blame them. Reddit owns the subreddits, not redditors. I have no idea why someone would put the time required into moderating a large sub for no money just for Reddit’s benefit in the first place. A Reddit model where the mods share in profits (kind of how YouTube creators do) would be interesting. But if you’re going to sign up for that, you can’t expect Reddit to just let you tank their site. It was never y…
> Reddit owns the subreddits, not redditors.
I view a subreddit as a composite of three parts: The authors, the curators, and the host.
Reddit, Inc. owns only one of those three, and it's arguably the one that's most easily replaced.
Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen
#368I don’t blame them. Reddit owns the subreddits, not redditors. I have no idea why someone would put the time required into moderating a large sub for no money just for Reddit’s benefit in the first place. A Reddit model where the mods share in profits (kind of how YouTube creators do) would be interesting. But if you’re going to sign up for that, you can’t expect Reddit to just let you tank their site. It was never y…
There's a quite simple non-malicious reason to become an unpaid mod - to make a community that you use better. I'm sure a substantial percent of mods joined for this reason. I've been a part of poorly moderated communities and thought: "wish I could just take down this non-compliant story or abusive comment".
Then there's a lot of negative reasons to join. For power, to gain a sphere of influence, possible to sell this as a product.
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I feel like the crazies ranting about "white erasure" are making it harder to criticize these race-reboots on the grounds they should be criticized for: laziness. Mediocre products where the selling point is, "we swapped races, give us points," remain mediocre and are unbelievably lazy compared to what we should see... which is new and interesting things with diversity baked in. Unfortunately the hysterical racists a…
It's extremely hard to take any middle of the road position now. Extremists on either side just won't allow it.
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> mods are already power hungry lunatics and your most obsessed power hungry mod I mean, here you are just describing the mods that are holding these subreddits hostage. It seems appropriate for reddit to return these to the community in the case where the obsessed power hungry mod's behavior goes against what the community wants.
Have there been any subreddits that voted to open instead of stay closed? All the ones I’ve heard about were in favor of maintaining the protest
r/NewOrleans and r/SaltLakeCity voted to end it. There has also been rampant brigading from the pro-blackout side (see r/magicTCG, in addition to a Twitch stream brigade users on r/freemagic talked about voting in the poll despite being banned from r/magicTCG). I’m curious how r/FanFiction will go since they’re doing much more robust polling with karma requirements to stop brigades.