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Re: Framework Laptop 16

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Any plans to switch to Coreboot or provide Coreboot as an option? Otherwise, could flash programming be unlocked to facilitate flashing third-party firmware?

TBH that would be an instant buy from me

I've been using a System76 Lemur Pro for 6 months, and I'm very happy with it: https://system76.com/laptops/lemur

I'd switch to a Framework laptop for the hardware configurability, but not if it means losing Coreboot.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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Why are there still only tiny slivered arrow keys when the palm rest is so big you could park a car on it?

Indeed, all the space could be used to fit a keyboard in this manner very nicely https://imgur.com/a/V0Ykw1D and make this and any laptop immensely more usable.

I prefer this design, that my Xiaomi laptop has. Keyboard and trackpad are centered, but I get full size arrow keys: https://imgur.com/dgjUJVV

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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I don't know anything about your specific situation, needs, and preferences, but GPUs are not self evidently useless for blind users. In some systems, they can contribute to higher quality speech synthesis. They could also have a role to play in vision support tasks (e.g. determining whether you're properly positioned in front of your webcam in a video chat, or recognizing and describing something you're holding up t…

Can you post info about them contributing to speech synthesis? I use NVDA as my screen reader with the built-in espeak synthesizer. I've been using synthetic speech so long I find I don't want natural sounding voices, I prefer more robotic sounding ones since I can listen to them at a faster rate. Vision tasks is a good point but not something that applies to me. I almost never use a webcam on my personal computer. I…

I don't have information about specific speech synthesis systems, but contemporary speech synthesis often relies on neural networks for best quality, and those can benefit from GPUs. If you truly prefer robotic sounding, that may not be relevant to you. But if it's all about synthesis speed, that's where GPUs may bridge the performance gap.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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I'm thinking of my next laptop. I only use it for work (programmer) plus maybe play movies. I have no interest in games. I don't like Windows, and am so-so about Mac, so that probably leaves Ubuntu, which I already use outside of my day job. Are these the kinds of laptops I should buy? Or are there other recommendations?

I would say yes as these are extremely repairable and upgradable.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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I’ve loved my Framework so far and the excellent customer service. Is there still enough attention put into ensuring Linux compat? I’m especially interested in providing NixOS support as the Framework has been popular in that community.

Definitely. We have a dedicated member of the CX team focused on Linux support, along with a support agent who is also dedicated to it. Most of our lead engineers also use/dogfood Linux on their Framework Laptops daily. Mostly Ubuntu, but I believe one of our team members does use NixOS as their default.

Excellent. Any custom modifications can go here: https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-hardware/tree/master/framewor... to make it easier to collaborate and distribute.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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So, there isn't enough internal volume to fit an A and C port in the same slot. Ports require more volume than they appear. But I'll interpret this to mean: "why can't we have one USB-C port with all the altmodes and another with just USB 2 or 3, no altmodes, no power/data role swaps, etc". USB 2 is possible, for some really dumb reasons. USB-IF actually prohibits repurposing the USB 2 pins for other purposes in USB…

Thank you for the detailed comment! You'd definitely need a smart hub chip, yeah. But I don't think you need all the altmodes. No analog audio, for instance. Primarily Thunderbolt, and power. I'm interested in the volume question; what makes USB-A and USB-C unable to both physically fit in the space no matter how creative you get?

The footprint of the receptacle is wider than the actual plug that goes into it, by a significant amount. It only looks like it'll fit from the outside.

Analog audio was just me being exhaustive, I'm pretty sure none of Intel's chips support that altmode natively. Hell, only like half of the market of USB-C phones support it, which makes it mildly cursed.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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I’m happy to answer questions that folks have on this. There was also an earlier HN thread on our full launch event where we announced 13th Gen Intel Core and AMD Ryzen 7040 Series versions of the Framework Laptop 13, along with a bunch of other stuff: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35277660

Why are there still only tiny slivered arrow keys when the palm rest is so big you could park a car on it?

I imagine that the numberpad thing in the 16s could address this problem. If not outright, then perhaps through the interfaces that enable it. But I agree, as a 13 owner I want a better answer than that.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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Yeah... considering there are good browser APIs and most server platforms support language matching, that they could relatively easily deliver language content without specific language endpoints. Not that it's easy, just completely doable if it's a significant concern.

Automatic language matching is a real pain actually. - sometimes the article / product is only available in 1 language and the redirection leads nowhere (I’ve seen it many times) - the language of my phone/computer does not match the one where I live, and even maybe not the language I used to search for that thing in the first place. So yeah, I never like it, especially when you live near the border of multiple count…

Why don't more people use DeepL or something similar to translate articles?? Unless you're using very specific stylistic devices (is that the right word?) it should work just fine, right?

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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> DPI scaling hackery Under X11 with KDE, or under Windows, that's no problem whatsoever. 144dpi isn't any more hacky than 96dpi or 192dpi. It's only macOS, Gnome and Wayland that require 1x or 2x scaling (which is absolutely mind-bogglingly ridiculous, and anyone that contributed to that or encouraged that should be banned from ever touching UI code again).

I'm not sure what issues in Wayland you're talking about. I've been using sway with fractional scaling for a few years now and never really had any problems.

Sway with Wayland has every application render at both 1x and 2x and then has the compositor scale the application.

This sounds like a really attractive idea until you realize that a 1.25x 1080p screen means you’re now rendering everything at 3K resolution, including any and all games.

Additionally compositors often scale directly in sRGB, which means you’re introducing lots of gamma errors.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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One of my favorite things for keyboards is the ThinkPad feature where the Page Up and Page Down is above the Left and Right key. I don't understand why others don't do this, its so practical. Specially in cases like this, there is just an empty space there. Why not put 2 more keys? ThinkPad also makes them full sized keys, that would be even better. But just having empty space? Why?

The exciting thing to me is that if there is enough demand, someone can make a keyboard module without having to make a whole laptop. Thinkpad-style? Sure! Ortholinear? Why not!

This was already true with the smaller Framework laptop, someone could make an alternative keyboard module.

This makes it easier to make a "DIY hack on the side", not needing to manufacture a complete keyboard.

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