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Post by ben_w »

beepbooptheory wrote: post #336
ben_w wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your mind is just an emergent property of your brain, which is just a bunch of cells, each of which is merely a bag of chemical reactions, all of which are just the inevitable consequence of the laws of quantum mechanics (because relatively is less than a rounding error at that scale), and that is nothing more than a linear partial differential equation.

People working in philosophy of mind have a rich dialogue about these issues, and its certainly something you can't just encapsulate in a few thoughts. But it seems like it would be worth your time to look into it. :) Ill just say: the issue with this variant of reductivism is its enticingly easy to explain in one direction, but it tends to fall apart if you try to go the other way!

I tried philosophy at A-level back in the UK; grade C in the first year, but no extra credit at all in the second so overall my grade averaged an E.

> the issue with this variant of reductivism is its enticingly easy to explain in one direction, but it tends to fall apart if you try to go the other way!

If by this you mean the hard problem of consciousness remains unexplained by any of the physical processes underlying it, and that it subjectively "feels like" Cartesian dualism with a separate spirit-substance even though absolutely all of the objective evidence points to reality being material substance monism, then I agree.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by Spinnaker_ »

majormajor wrote: post #242
sfink wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Consider reading The Botany of Desire. It doesn't need to experience an emotion of wanting in order to effectively want things. Corn doesn't experience a feeling of wanting, and yet it has manipulated us even into creating a lot of it, doing some serious damage to ourselves and our long-term prospects simply by being useful and appealing. The blockchain doesn't experience wanting, yet it coerced us into burning count…

Extending agency to corn or a blockchain is even more of a stretch than extending it to ChatGPT. Corn has properties that have resulted from random chance and selection. It hasn't chosen to have certain mutations to be more appealing to humans; humans have selected the ones with the mutations those individual humans were looking for. "Corn is the benefactor"? Sure, insomuch as "continuing to reproduce at a species le…

Most, if not all of the ways humans demonstrate "agency" are also the result of random chance and selection.

You want what you want because Women selected for it, and it allowed the continuation of the species.

I'm being a bit tongue in cheek, but still...

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by golol »

Bjorkbat wrote: post #197
jyrkesh wrote: post #46

Everyone's been talking about how ChatGPT will disrupt search, but looking at the launch partners, I think this has the potential to completely subvert the OS / App Store layer. On some level, how much do I need an OpenTable app if I can use voice/text input and a multi-modal response that will ultimately book my reservation? Not saying mobile's going away, but this could be the thing that does to mobile what mobile…

I'm kind of skeptical of this simply because people were saying the same thing about chatbots back when there was a lot of hype around Messenger. Sure, they weren't as advanced as what we have now, but they were fundamentally capable of the same things. Not only did the hype not pan out, but it feels as if they were completely forgotten. In a nutshell that's why I'm still largely dismissive of anything related to GPT…

>but they were fundamentally capable of the same things.

This is not the case. The difference between current state of the art NLP and chatbots 3 years ago is so massive, it has to be seen as qualitative. Pre GPT-3 computers did not understand language and no commerical chatbot had any AI. Now computers can understand language.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by mFixman »

mk_stjames wrote: post #277

I have some odd feelings about this. It took less than a year to go from "of course it isn't hooked up to the internet in any way, silly!" to "ok.... so we hooked up up to the internet..." First is your API calls, then your chatgpt-jailbreak-turns-into-a-bank-DDOS-attack, then your "today it somehow executed several hundred thousand threads of a python script that made perfectly timed trades at 8:31AM on the NYSE whi…

I'm sure somebody posted this exact same comment in an early 1990s BBS about the idea of having a computer in every home connected to the internet.

I would first wait until ChatGPT causes the collapse of society and only then start thinking about how to solve it.

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Post by golol »

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #125
jyrkesh wrote: post #46

Everyone's been talking about how ChatGPT will disrupt search, but looking at the launch partners, I think this has the potential to completely subvert the OS / App Store layer. On some level, how much do I need an OpenTable app if I can use voice/text input and a multi-modal response that will ultimately book my reservation? Not saying mobile's going away, but this could be the thing that does to mobile what mobile…

This is what Apple's Siri was meant to be. Apple bought Siri from SRI international (Siri = SRI), and when it was launched was meant to include ability to book restaurants etc (thereby bypassing search), but somehow those capabilities were never released and today Siri still can't even control the iPhone! My hot take on ChatGPT plugins is a bit mixed - should be very powerful, and maybe significant revenue generator,…

All chatbots require AI to really be useful. This just did not exist until a few years ago.

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Post by plutonorm »

the88doctor wrote: post #330
ren_engineer wrote: post #267

Earlier quoted context omitted.

genius strategy by OpenAI to give their "customers" access to lower quality models to show what end users want, then rugpull them by building out clones of those developer's products with a better model Similar to what Facebook and Twitter did, just clone popular projects built using the API and build it directly into the product while restricting the API over time. Anybody using OpenAI APIs is basically just paying…

Long term, you're right. But if you approach the ChatGPT plugin opportunity as an inherently time-limited opportunity (like arbitrage in finance), then you you can still make some short-term money and learn about AI in the process. Not a bad route for aspiring entrepreneurs who are currently in college or are looking for a side gig business experiment. And who knows. If a plugin is successful enough, you might even s…

There is no route to making money with these plugins. You have to get the users onto your website, sign-up, part with money, then go back to gptchat. It's really hard to make that happen, this is going to be much more useful for existing businesses adding functionality to existing projects. Or random devs just making stuff. Making fast money out of it, it seems v difficult.

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Post by BonoboIO »

raydev wrote: post #285
celestialcheese wrote: post #39

This is a big deal for openai. Been working with homegrown toolkits and langchain, the open source version of this, for a number of months and the ability to call out to vectorstores, serpapis, etc, and chaining together generations and data-retrieval really unlocks the power of the LLMs. That being said, I'd never build anything dependent on these plugins. OpenAI and their models rule the day today, but who knows wh…

> I'd never build anything dependent on these plugins You're thinking too long term. Based on my Twitter feed filled with AI gold rush tweets, the goal is to build something/anything while hype is at its peak, and you can secure a a few hundred k or million in profits before the ground shifts underneath you. The playbook is obvious now: just build the quickest path to someone giving you money, maybe it's not useful a…

AI NFTs :D

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Post by licnep »

swyx wrote: post #213

i think people aren't appreciating it's ability to run -and execute- Python. IT RUNS FFMPEG https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1638971232443076609?s=20 IT RUNS FREAKING FFMPEG. inside CHATGPT. what. is. happening. ChatGPT is an AI compute platform now.

OpenAI is basically asking to get hacked at this point...

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Post by jehb »

chatmasta wrote: post #353
mk_stjames wrote: post #277

I have some odd feelings about this. It took less than a year to go from "of course it isn't hooked up to the internet in any way, silly!" to "ok.... so we hooked up up to the internet..." First is your API calls, then your chatgpt-jailbreak-turns-into-a-bank-DDOS-attack, then your "today it somehow executed several hundred thousand threads of a python script that made perfectly timed trades at 8:31AM on the NYSE whi…

Pshhh... I think it's awesome. The faster we build the future, the better. What annoys me is this is just further evidence that their "AI Safety" is nothing but lip-service, when they're clearly moving fast and breaking things. Just the other day they had a bug where you could see the chat history of other users! (Which, btw, they're now claiming in a modal on login was due to a "bug in an open source library" - anyo…

> The faster we build the future, the better.

Why? Getting to "the future" isn't a goal in and of itself. It's just a different state with a different set of problems, some of which we've proven that we're not prepared to anticipate or respond to before they cause serious harm.

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