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America’s banks are missing hundreds of billions of dollars

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Re: America’s banks are missing hundreds of billions of dollars

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The title is clickbaity. It's not like the banks are missing any of their depositors' money.

so what you’re saying is that there’s a major bank out there that could pay out all - or even half of - its deposits right now?

This is not what "missing" means, or else every parent at work with kids at school would have a missing child (after all, they don't have the kids right now). The banks have loaned out the money, but they do keep track of whom they loaned it to.

Re: America’s banks are missing hundreds of billions of dollars

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Those calculations are very tricky in conflict with the obvious huge increase in living standards since the 70s.

I fail to see how larger TV sets equates to huge increase in living standards. Maybe we could measure living standards by looking at mental health statistics? Percent of population on prescription mind-altering drugs? Do bigger houses, leading to greater social isolation, actually represent an increase in living standards? I get that bigger house == bigger house, but maybe the metric is flawed.

Do you honestly think the only thing that's changed about life between now and the 70s is your house and TV are bigger?

Re: America’s banks are missing hundreds of billions of dollars

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Does the government require banks to buy long-term treasuries? [1] Or did banks choose to buy long-term treasury bills, chasing the highest paper returns (i.e. discounting the risk of potential rising interest rates in the future)? It's not a rhetorical question, but a sincere one. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Treasury_securit... states that Treasuries are sold in all varieties of duration, from 4…

> Does the government require banks to buy long-term treasuries? Yes, there are a number of banks that have "Primary Dealer" [1] status which confers to them some benefits, but also makes them legally obligated to make some minimum number of winning bids on government treasury auctions. See the section under "Expectations & Requirements" in the link. Probably the most quantifiable requirement is they have to maintain…

Of the over 4000 banks in the US, only around 20 are Primary Dealers.

Re: America’s banks are missing hundreds of billions of dollars

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If capital is too risky to raise, why can’t a bank refuse deposits?

“What do you mean my paycheck isn’t in my account?” I don’t see that working too well …

Making payroll is chump change compared to the deposits SVP had. Maximum balance of ten million aught to do it.

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Can't see that as ever working. There'd be no practical way to shield the vulnerable or the carers and beyond that if it's left to run rampant in the wider population eventually the medical system is overwhelmed and collapses.

> There'd be no practical way to shield the vulnerable or the carers The shielding system was an official policy in the UK https://www.local.gov.uk/sites/default/files/documents/SHIEL... > left to run rampant in the wider population eventually the medical system is overwhelmed and collapses. The risk of hospitalisation was low around the 30s and younger.

And the UK had one of the highest COVID death rates in first world countries.

Re: America’s banks are missing hundreds of billions of dollars

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> 2. The government decides that, oops, it printed too much money in 2020/21 and is causing inflation, so it raises rates very quickly. Printing money doesn’t cause inflation necessarily. Your thinking is based on Monetarism, which has been debunked a while ago. In essence, it’s not about the amount of money that is created. It's about the amount of goods we try to consume in relation to the amount of goods produced.

You can only say that once you accept inflation to mean "a single number representing price increases", which is so over-simplified as to be laughable. Not to mention easily manipulated by statistical tricks and more obvious tricks like weighing for "feature increase" or using country-wide medians and not weighing those for population distribution. If you look at real estate prices vs CPI since MMT really began, real…

The definition of inflation is a general increase in prices, not cherry picked item price increases.

Re: America’s banks are missing hundreds of billions of dollars

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1. The government requires banks buy their debt and hold it as reserves because it's considered the safest investment. 2. The government decides that, oops, it printed too much money in 2020/21 and is causing inflation, so it raises rates very quickly. 3. New treasuries yield 4 or 5 times as much in interest as the ones from 1-2 years ago. Why would anyone want to buy those old treasuries near face value now? 4. The…

This is a wrong characterization and makes it look like it's the Fed fault all along. Government bonds still have risks (ie: The government not paying) but more importantly, they are tightly linked to the main interest rate. Their prices can fluctuate significantly and do all the time. Bankers know that. That's kind of the first or second lesson they'd teach you at a basic financial course. Everything is priced in te…

> This is a wrong characterization and makes it look like it's the Fed fault all along. Government bonds still have risks (ie: The government not paying) but more importantly, they are tightly linked to the main interest rate. Their prices can fluctuate significantly and do all the time.

The government controls interest rates, therefore the fact remains: it has in-fact been the feds fault all along. When you lower the cost of money (interest rates) so, so low, you send a signal to the market that says, "Hey, everyone -- invest, invest, invest!". That signal makes it look as if a lot of things are a good investment, thereby causing malinvestments all over the economy that eventually go bust.

> Wrong. This is corruption. Janet is picking winners and losers. Some people are losing their deposits and some are not. You are systemic if you had dinner with Janet yesterday.

When the government sets up a borrowing program and immediately shells out 300+ billion to banks, and when they bailout the 16th largest bank in the US to the tune of 100+ billion, Janet is certainly picking winners and losers, but at that scale, I think an argument could be made that fiscal policy is loosening, just like it was loosening when Bush and Obama handed out their bailouts.

Politicians are addicted to cheap money.

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There’s interest rate risk, credit risk, and prepayment risk with the securities they buy. On a Treasury or guaranteed bond, there is no credit risk. On a Treasury there is no prepayment risk. Therefore if you hedge out the interest rate risk, you’re essentially left with 0 risk. 0 risk = 0 or near 0 premium. e.g. there’s no point in doing the trade if you hedge.

Yes that’s the point. Treasuries are cash, they are not meant to make money for banks, they are meant to be a place for banks to put money when they don’t have anything else to do with it. Banks are supposed to make money from the premium between the base interest rate and the rate on the loans they make. The implied contract when you deposit money in a bank is that the bank has a dependable business model as a lende…

Maturity transformation (borrowing short and lending long) is still a core function of banking (and historically one of the key sources of profit. Manhunt this risk in a bank portfolio is one of the central jobs of management.

The naïveté was thinking the deposit base wouldn’t shrink (after growing 3x in as many years)

Re: America’s banks are missing hundreds of billions of dollars

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1. The government requires banks buy their debt and hold it as reserves because it's considered the safest investment. 2. The government decides that, oops, it printed too much money in 2020/21 and is causing inflation, so it raises rates very quickly. 3. New treasuries yield 4 or 5 times as much in interest as the ones from 1-2 years ago. Why would anyone want to buy those old treasuries near face value now? 4. The…

The Covid liquidity injections will be known as the worst decision of a generation. PPP loans were greater than student loan forgiveness for all. Greater than the new deal cost. Such a missed opportunity.

I think without the stimmy checks, loan deferments, liquidity injection, etc the lockdowns could not have been implemented, so many people lost their jobs or couldn't get revenue, the only way to keep them somewhat compliant was a bribe. Could you imagine telling people not to show up for work for months and not sending them any money/compensation? That would be a rebellion. Remember, in the beginning of the pandemic staying home was a lot of fun, especially if you had a corporate job that was now operating out of your PJs, the stock market mania was a real time source of entertainment.

I know small business owners who were not retail facing who just working right through the pandemic lockdowns without stop because they couldn't afford to stop operations.

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