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Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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How does that fit with Google business model? Will they make it recommend products or link to other websites? If Bard becomes successful and good at answering people’s questions, doesn’t that go against their main source of revenue (advertising)?

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Not sure whether to read anything into this or not, but I got an email about this announcement from Google Nest, with the Nest branding right next to the word Bard.

Is the intent for Bard to be part of Google Home/Google Assistant in the future? That does seem like a logical use case. I've been waiting for a LLM to be integrated into a voice assistant for a long time now.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is anyone doing better than Google at self driving cars right now? I agree with the other products you mentioned but it seems like nobody has "won" self driving cars yet but google might be the furthest along?

Yes, many cars with various levels of self-driving are available. Almost every car maker now has basic lane following and adaptive cruise control. Some add navigation, lane changing, and the ability to obey traffic signals. GM has a system called Super Cruise that allows the driver to take their hands off the wheel. Mercedes has Drive Pilot which is the first level 3 self driving system. Google has not released anyth…

Driver assistance and fully autonomous driving are very different things.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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I don't mean to post all my interactions, but here's one more. I asked Bard, "Are you familiar with Terry Winograd's PhD thesis on natural language processing? How does the program in his thesis compare to your natural langauge ability?"

Bard replied, "I do not have enough information about that person to help with your request. I am a large language model, and I am able to communicate and generate human-like text in response to a wide range of prompts and questions, but my knowledge about this person is limited. Is there anything else I can do to help you with this request?"

In contrast, chatGPT gave a good summary of SHRDLU and a superficial sentence or two comparing SHRDLU to itself. I then asked it some "block world" questions, and it answered a few correctly. 'Assume there are 3 cubs, red, green, and blue. Can you stack the red cube on the blue cube? Assume there is also a yellow pyramid. Can you stack the green cube on top of the pyramid."....

I can't pull up the exact chatGPT query I used or the reply. Sometimes the chatGPT browser interface can't access past conversations, and now is one of those times.

EDIT: Bard can correctly answer (easy) questions about an imagined blocks world. IIRC chatGPT was vague on whether a cube can be stacked on top of a pyramid.

Assume there are 3 cubes, red, green, and blue. Stack the red cube on top of the blue cube, and describe the result to me.

BARD: The blue cube is now the bottom cube, and the red cube is on top of it. The red cube is touching the blue cube on all six sides. The blue cube is completely covered by the red cube.

Also assume there is a yellow pyramid. Stack the pyramid on the green cube and describe the result to me.

BARD: The yellow pyramid is now resting on top of the green cube. The pyramid is touching the green cube on all four sides. The green cube is still visible from underneath the pyramid.

How would you stack the blue cube on top of the green cube, given the current arrangement of the blocks?

BARD: I would need to move the red cube off of the blue cube first. Then, I could stack the blue cube on top of the green cube.

Can a cube be stacked on top of the pyramid?

BARD: No, a cube cannot be stacked on top of a pyramid.

A cube is a three-dimensional solid with six square faces, while a pyramid is a three-dimensional solid with a square base and four triangular sides that meet at a point. The two shapes are not compatible for stacking.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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I've tried this question with Bing Chat (GPT-4) and Bard: > A total order requires a This is the result Bing Chat gave me about a week ago (although I've just tried it a few times now, and all of the answers are considerably worse): 'A Cauchy sequence is a sequence of real numbers such that for any positive real number ε, there is a positive integer N such that for all natural numbers m and n greater than N, the abso…

Bing follow-up: 'Can you prove those properties?

'Sure! Here's a proof for each property:

Reflexivity: For any real number x represented by a Cauchy sequence (xn), we have that for any positive real number there exists a positive integer N such that for all natural numbers n greater than N, xn - xn = 0 Transitivity: Suppose x Anti-symmetry: Suppose x Strong connectedness: For any two real numbers represented by Cauchy sequences (xn) and (yn), either there exists a positive integer M such that xn- ynHope this helps!'

Bard second try:

Prompt: 'A total order requires a 0, there exists N such that if n > N, then x_n - y_n Bard:

'Sure. Here is a proof that the definition of Reflexivity: Let x n be a Cauchy sequence. Then for any ε>0, there exists N such that if n>N, then x n − x n Transitivity: Let x n and y n be Cauchy sequences. Then for any ε>0, there exists N such that if n>N, then x n − y n Anti-symmetry: Let x n and y n be Cauchy sequences. If x n 0, there exists N such that if n>N, then x n − y n Strong connectivity: Let x n and y n be Cauchy sequences. Then for any ε>0, there exists N such that if n>N, then x n − y nTherefore, the definition of Reflexivity and transitivity were right for both, Bing was dead wrong about anti-symmetry, Bard gave enough to prove anti-symmetry for a reasonable definition of equality of Cauchy sequences, and neither got a proof of strong connectedness right, they essentially assert it without proving it. But that is substantially more difficult than the other properties to prove.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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Somehow I have the idea that the general sentiment is that people hope Google fails with Bard. Or at least does something stupid. Is it just me? (Not saying it is a good thing)

Feels like a reddit thread, small minded and bitter.

Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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I just got off the waitlist. Quick impression: it's not as good as ChatGPT. I gave it the false belief test (Alice and Bob are playing, Bob leaves, Alice hides his toy, Bob comes back, where does he look for his toy?), which it both passed and recognized as the false belief test. I then asked it to write a React program that ChatGPT has no problem with, and it hallucinated some incorrect code before eventually tellin…

> Alice and Bob are playing, Bob leaves, Alice hides his toy, Bob comes back, where does he look for his toy? I might be dumber than the AI because I don't know the answer. Bob looks around? I mean the toy is not there when he comes back. Where else can he check?

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Re: Google releases Bard to a limited number of users in the US and UK

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$today + 1 year: "Google shuts down Bard, its AI chatbot"

Please don't post shallow, dismissive clichés. They're repetitive and therefore the opposite of what we want here.

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