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Re: Bank run on Silicon Valley Bank

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There is no reserve ratio. We got rid of it in March 2020. https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/reservereq.htm

So if I open a bank with a couple million dollars I can make an infinite number of loans??

No apparently there are still other rules that keep things in check we just got rid of that one. My understanding is that it did crank up the speed money printing quite significantly though.

Re: Bank run on Silicon Valley Bank

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> Yes, it would solve one type of problem. But nobody wants your solution because it’s an unreasonable trade off for everyone to solve an extremely rare edge case. Can you explain why this is bad? People lived with hard-ish money systems for extremely long periods of time. > The concepts of assets and liabilities are well understood in the business world. Banks aren’t “lying” and fractional reserve banking does not m…

> Can you explain why this is bad? People lived with hard-ish money systems for extremely long periods of time. The problems those systems caused are the reason we created the Fed and soft money. Hard money ruined many lives, caused many panics, and is an intellectually bankrupt idea that only cranks are still devoted to.

Do you mind explaining why? I'm not familiar with hard vs soft money.

Re: Bank run on Silicon Valley Bank

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From https://techcrunch.com/2023/03/09/silicon-valley-banks-share... : Becker said the bank has “ample liquidity” to support its clients “with one exception: If everybody is telling each other that SVB is in trouble, that will be a challenge.” Pro tip: if you're CEO of a bank that's facing a bank run, don't tell the press that you'll be in trouble if everybody takes their money out.

> if you're CEO of a bank that's facing a bank run Or just don't mess with money that belongs to customers. Be the world's first reliable bank.

Not a finance guy but I think that would literally be the opposite of how banks work. They have to lend out customers money in various forms, including giving that money to other customers in the form of loans, loaning it in huge chunks to companies for larger percentage rates than they give customers who keep their money in said bank, and so forth. Not sure how a bank that kept every customers money on hand all the time would work.

Re: Bank run on Silicon Valley Bank

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Matt Levine is fond of this highly relevant quote by Bagehot: “Every banker knows that if he has to prove that he is worthy of credit, however good may be his arguments, in fact his credit is gone.” It seems that CEOs of banks haven't learned anything since 1873 when this was observed.

What is there to learn? That's not an actionable statement. A bank can follow a lower risk strategy and accept lower profits, but that's not necessarily what shareholders want. Some risk of failure is acceptable.

The point is not what you’re assuming it to be.

The point is that a bank run is a liquidity event (i.e. we still own more than what we owe, it’s just hard to turn it into cash fast enough).

SVB has a fine balance sheet for now, they’re just running out of easy things to sell.

The quote is referencing liquidity events, where the problem is everyone wants their money because they’re nervous about the bank, but the only thing that can hurt the bank is them taking out their money (because then the bank is in fire sale mode).

A CEOs job in this time (something SVB CEO did not do) is to project confidence. That’s literally all they can do.

Re: Bank run on Silicon Valley Bank

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This is so misguided. Just raising interest rates by a few points has resulted in many thousands of people losing their livelihoods in under a year, because companies could no longer justify taking out loans. What you're suggesting is eliminating loans altogether . This is a fun dorm room thought experiment, but it's not even hyperbolic to say that if it were actually pursued, it would result in a huge number of deat…

Modern Islamic countries without usury manage to feed their citizens so although I would agree that banning loans would cause a lot of pain in the modern economy, I can't see how it would cause mass starvation.

Exactly, and even in those cases, it only serves to enrich certain people who intermediate the loans and to satiate reckless or impatient consumers. It's more like gambling; it appeals to and takes advantage of human nature but doesn't benefit the individual; it only benefits the house. It doesn't actually provide any true value to society.

Re: Bank run on Silicon Valley Bank

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I'm really curious why banks like this are popular in the first place. I get why startups would want to lend from them, but what is the advantage of parking cash in a "startup-focused" bank? The rest of the business is exciting/risky enough, wouldn't you want your banking to be as boring as possible?

Well, just as an example SVB gave my startup a bank account and a no personal recourse credit card days after we'd formed the corporation. No way you'd get that from BofA. They understand the startup ecosystem in a way that big banks don't. Now there's some competition from startup-focused banks like Brex and Mercury, but a five years ago SVB was one of the only games in town.

I totally get why you’d borrow from them, and the card sounds nice, but do you want to be depositing your money with businesses that offer no personal recourse credit cards to brand new businesses?

Re: Bank run on Silicon Valley Bank

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CDs?

CDs are definitely not the same as checking and savings accounts though. Most people don't even have any CDs, and the people who do have them also have accounts where they can withdraw money immediately. I've never seen a bank that only offers CDs. That's probably because such a bank wouldn't survive.

> Most people don't even have any CDs

Because the rates suck, but that hasn’t always been the case.

Re: Bank run on Silicon Valley Bank

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This whole thing will go down in history as a case study in how not to communicate and lead in a crisis.

The bank’s leadership made some bad financial decisions but then scored a massive “own goal” in how they communicated all that to the market and their customers.

Re: Bank run on Silicon Valley Bank

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From https://techcrunch.com/2023/03/09/silicon-valley-banks-share... : Becker said the bank has “ample liquidity” to support its clients “with one exception: If everybody is telling each other that SVB is in trouble, that will be a challenge.” Pro tip: if you're CEO of a bank that's facing a bank run, don't tell the press that you'll be in trouble if everybody takes their money out.

If you have to convince people you're liquid, you've lost the argument. Similar to if you have to convince people you're sane, you've already lost

Re: Bank run on Silicon Valley Bank

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> SVB's customers are weighted significantly more towards businesses who will have more than $250k in the bank. If you have that much money, FDIC is not adequate for you (and isn't intended to be). There are other mechanisms for those sorts of depositors. Surely, those businesses got solid financial advice and are using them, right?

The mechanism is to watch the banks you have money in. A company still has to pay it's bills. To pay bills, you need some money in a bank, it's unavoidable. So, let's say you are a company with 4 banks accounts. Each has $500k in it. One of them is SVB. You probably just move the $500k into one of the other bank accounts. It's no big deal per se, but you do it. That's a run on the bank if lots of companies do the sam…

There’re always T-Bills…
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