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Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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Post by samus »

zerd wrote: post #342
bloodyplonker22 wrote: post #276

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What a gross trivialization of the chip design process. If all a company had to do was get first in line for TSMC's process, Intel would drop all their fabs and just pay that money to TSMC to beat AMD.

"Intel is engaged with TSMC on N3 for its next-generation graphic processors (GPUs) in 2023". https://www.eetimes.com/intel-will-rely-on-tsmc-for-its-rebo...

It's a side business for Intel. Unlike AMD, Intel has never managed to produce GPUs that perform close to the current state of the art.

For TSMC, it would be an error to start large-scale production of chips for someone that still has their own manufacturing capability. TSMC would have to allocate less fab capacity to their existing customers, and those won't like that.

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Post by mbigras »

hot_gril wrote: post #308
mbigras wrote: post #205

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Please accept my sympathy. I do understand and soon enough I'll be in the same predicament. Every iOS 15 patch feels like a gift. I seriously don't know what I'm going do when iOS 15 becomes end of life; there aren't any modern phones that have my critical—and arguably reasonable—hardware requirements.

The other requirement being the home button instead of these awful swipe gestures and facial unlock? And compact size. Man, Steve Jobs got it right before.

Precisely that and I couldn’t agree more. I even ditched my case about a year ago—live for today.

The hardest thing is the strain the whole experience puts on my relationships. I already used up all my fiancé’s patience with my chronic melancholy about my perfectly functional but ultimately doomed phone; and end of life hasn't even happened yet.

Seeing iOS 12.5.7 was bittersweet, a glimmer of hope, a reason to hold on.

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Post by scarface74 »

koolba wrote: post #74
hahamaster wrote: post #62

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You take your phone to a shop and come back an hour later and boom you have a new battery. I once had a microphone fail on my phone and it was exact same scenario. It's really not a big deal.

If you’re going to do this for an iPhone then best to hurry up. They’re raising the prices at the end of the month. I think from $49 to $89.

The average selling price of an iPhone is over $1000. How many iPhone buyers are that price sensitive to a $40 difference in price for a battery that they might replace over four years.

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Post by barbazoo »

lasfallas wrote: post #86
barbazoo wrote: post #46

Why anyone would get a Samsung is beyond me. The amount of bloatware they install is insane and a lot of that you can't even uninstall. Plus it takes so long to get OS updates. And then there is Bixby or what that piece of shit is called.

2017 called and wants your comment back. Samsung is best Android manufacturer in class regarding OS upgrades and security updates, Bixby can be switched off and actually performs well in tests. Visible bloatware has been reduced significantly and most of the visible apps you can uninstall or deactivate.

hahaha, fair. My most recent experience definitely was with an older phone, probably from that era.

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Post by mmcnl »

notatoad wrote: post #270
itake wrote: post #29

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I use an iPhone X (released 2017) and I wish it kept up with modern app performance requirements. The iPhone X doesn't support built-in OCR in images and apps take 1-2s longer to launch than my iPhone 13. Faster performance today means longer lasting tomorrow.

>Faster performance today means longer lasting tomorrow. only if CPU performance plateaus in future generations. as long as new phones keep having drastically better performance, apps will keep updating to use it.

That's precisely what is meant right? If the phone is faster today, there is more headroom to accommodate for future increased hardware requirements.

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Post by robertoandred »

picture wrote: post #13

Does benchmark results really matter that much for phones? I don't see myself compiling code, playing graphics intensive video games, multitasking with many engineering software running simultaneously, on a phone. Although Apple most definitely still leads on these factors, I think battery life, general latency/responsiveness of doing daily tasks, reliability, etc, are more important than some random coremark.

A faster benchmark means tasks get finished faster, which means improved latency/responsiveness and less battery used.

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Post by epolanski »

satvikpendem wrote: post #118
epolanski wrote: post #103

I can't understand who are the people that care about smartphone performance. I do every computation and gaming outside my phone. My Xiaomi Redmi Note 8 from 3 years ago feels as good as when I bought it when reading the net, watching youtube, chatting, emailing or editing pictures. And my Redmi scores 300 in the same Benchmark, where the S22 scores 900, the S23 1500 and the iPhone 14 Pro 1900. Maybe JS performance c…

Lots of people (especially in the third world) use their phone as their primary computer and gaming device.

Yes, and they're better off spending 200€ for a phone and whatever remains for a gaming device and computer rather than caring what 1200$ phone do.

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Post by miloignis »

hot_gril wrote: post #194
miloignis wrote: post #128

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> I have a shitton of hardware and cables that I'm not going to throw away just for some connector that will be phased out in ten years. Most people already have USB-C cables. Apple people often have them b/c of a MacBook or w/e. > On my desktop, sure. On my phone? Why bother? Dark Mode, Ad Blocking, etc. > Disagree Freedom is important, even if you don't need it now. Someone else, maybe you in the future, may need i…

> Freedom is important, even if you don't need it now. Someone else, maybe you in the future, may need it. I will switch to Android if I ever need the ability to use my phone like a PC. So far (10-ish years), that hasn't happened.

You are of course free to do whatever you like, but I would like to mention the two dangers I see with that approach:

1. If no-one uses the free version until it's necessary, it might decline and die, and then won't be around to save you. I'd say this is the Firefox / Chrome dynamic currently.

2. If you don't have the freesom to do something, you might not know what you're missing. Re: your comment in another branch, I have done all of "moving stuff around a file browser, installing ad-hoc apps, opening a command line, etc" on my phone in the past 24 hours, and had a great time doing it.

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Post by koolba »

scarface74 wrote: post #363
koolba wrote: post #74

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If you’re going to do this for an iPhone then best to hurry up. They’re raising the prices at the end of the month. I think from $49 to $89.

The average selling price of an iPhone is over $1000. How many iPhone buyers are that price sensitive to a $40 difference in price for a battery that they might replace over four years.

The iPhones getting their battery replaced are older iPhones owned by people who do not want to spend $1000 on a new phone. It’s people breathing new life into an iPhone 8, not someone debating dropping. $1300 on the latest release.

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Post by satvikpendem »

epolanski wrote: post #367
satvikpendem wrote: post #118

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Lots of people (especially in the third world) use their phone as their primary computer and gaming device.

Yes, and they're better off spending 200€ for a phone and whatever remains for a gaming device and computer rather than caring what 1200$ phone do.

Or they can just play on their phones. What you want is not what everyone wants.
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