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Re: Amazon Closing AmazonSmile

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> "our ability to have an impact was often spread too thin" If that's the supposed reason, I call bullshit. Could've just reduced the number of charities.

As a customer, I don't care if their overall impact is spread thin, it's my money going to a charity I chose.

Re: Amazon Closing AmazonSmile

#362
I don't particularly like using Amazon but the Smile program was the thing to sway me towards using it when convenient. I'm sure convenience alone will win them plenty but for my personal use this is a huge disappointment. I am almost certain the .5% they were giving away from my purchases/would save from this change will be less than the profit from products I will no longer buy from Amazon.

I would assume this is the case for many users and agree this is likely a short-sighted change. Scary indication of things to come as money policy keeps making companies more frugal.

Re: Amazon Closing AmazonSmile

#363

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Injuries per item picked or per capita might be a better metric. It's pretty easy to say the injuries are higher if you have more employees and higher volume than the competitors. Same thing with fraudulent items on Walmart.com.

Injuries per item picked is obviously the inferior of the two, and fairly poor on its own as well.

If I sit on ass all day, I assume my injury rate will be lower. Using an injury rate on items picked (or items picked per man hour) could at least show the correlation between increased productivity and injuries.

Re: Amazon Closing AmazonSmile

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I wouldn't be totally surprised, given the effort to get the FPC 501c3 delisted from smile last month. I thought part of what made Smile cool is that Amazon would forward my donations to such a wide range of organizations (eg my local church OR my local satanic temple). Talk about consumer choice.

Twitch also ran into this issue recently where blindly allowing donations to any registered charity ended up being a bad look for them. It think it was autism speaks (autism / neurodivergence is a disease that needs to be cured and "not technically eugenics", not popular with gamers, go figure) and the lgb alliance (a boring trans-hate group).

> the lgb alliance (a boring trans-hate group)

Can you direct me to any place where the LGB Alliance officially affirms “trans hate” as their core message?

Seems like a remark that fails the barest minimum of common sense thresholds, in that it’s unclear to me how any such body could ever hope to remain a tax-deductible registered charity.

Re: Amazon Closing AmazonSmile

#365

> "our ability to have an impact was often spread too thin" If that's the supposed reason, I call bullshit. Could've just reduced the number of charities.

Unpopular opinion, but charities are like carbon credits. Most of the money goes into people’s pockets and very less percentage of the donations actually make it towards helping the cause they run on. Very few legitimately use the money in the way we expect it to be used. So I’m okay with them losing $400M.

Re: Amazon Closing AmazonSmile

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> nothing more than a PR stunt/tax write off It was neither. It was a way to get people to go directly to Amazon in their browser rather than search items through Google. Clicking through Amazon from Google results gives Google an affiliate commission on those sales.

Oh, that’s interesting. I always wondered why they didn’t allow me to just have all my amazon traffic get redirected to smile, and that would totally explain it. I probably only remembered to type smile in the browser one out of every 10 times I bought something, so my purchases could have been much more helpful to my chosen charity if it weren’t for this. Is this observation based on knowledge of their motivations o…

Take with a grain of salt obviously, but there was a Reddit post [1] from someone claiming to have worked there at the time and that this was the entire motivation behind it.

[1]: https://old.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/10ft5iv/amazon_...

Re: Amazon Closing AmazonSmile

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There warehouses are significantly worse than average in terms of injuries per hour. They also frequently sell fraudulent items directly harming consumers. I can’t think of a metric where they aren’t worse than the average retailer.

They pay a lot more than the average retailer, which is why they feel they can work their employees so hard. I think they also tend to see less employee on employee violence.

The latter is an astonishingly dystopian metric. Is the data published somewhere?

Re: Amazon Closing AmazonSmile

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post #366

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, that’s interesting. I always wondered why they didn’t allow me to just have all my amazon traffic get redirected to smile, and that would totally explain it. I probably only remembered to type smile in the browser one out of every 10 times I bought something, so my purchases could have been much more helpful to my chosen charity if it weren’t for this. Is this observation based on knowledge of their motivations o…

Take with a grain of salt obviously, but there was a Reddit post [1] from someone claiming to have worked there at the time and that this was the entire motivation behind it. [1]: https://old.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/10ft5iv/amazon_...

Yeah, this was pretty widely known internally at the time (I was there 2012-2017). I didn't have first-hand exposure to the information, but I had a ton of second/third hand.

Re: Amazon Closing AmazonSmile

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post #351

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't be totally surprised, given the effort to get the FPC 501c3 delisted from smile last month. I thought part of what made Smile cool is that Amazon would forward my donations to such a wide range of organizations (eg my local church OR my local satanic temple). Talk about consumer choice.

Twitch also ran into this issue recently where blindly allowing donations to any registered charity ended up being a bad look for them. It think it was autism speaks (autism / neurodivergence is a disease that needs to be cured and "not technically eugenics", not popular with gamers, go figure) and the lgb alliance (a boring trans-hate group).

If people go to a doctor to get a diagnosis is that not the definition of a disease?

As for a cure, that should be a matter for the patient to decide if they want one or not.

I strongly suspect that your quote marks should actually be inverted commas.

Re: Amazon Closing AmazonSmile

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post #351

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitch also ran into this issue recently where blindly allowing donations to any registered charity ended up being a bad look for them. It think it was autism speaks (autism / neurodivergence is a disease that needs to be cured and "not technically eugenics", not popular with gamers, go figure) and the lgb alliance (a boring trans-hate group).

> the lgb alliance (a boring trans-hate group) Can you direct me to any place where the LGB Alliance officially affirms “trans hate” as their core message? Seems like a remark that fails the barest minimum of common sense thresholds, in that it’s unclear to me how any such body could ever hope to remain a tax-deductible registered charity.

They obviously don't call it hate themselves. It is the opinion of certain trans groups that the positions taken by the organisation are based on hate. Of course hate in modern lingo just means disagreement, or failure to support the specific legislative agenda of a particular group.

LGB Alliance states that it believes many cases of transition are actually a form of therapy to remove gay-ness. That a gay person is led to believe they can be "straight" if they transition to the opposite sex. So in their view, transitioning is a form of homophobia, but in the view of trans groups, the LGB alliance is anti-trans. From the LGB Alliance webpage:

> Very many children, and quite possibly adults, enter the process of gender transition as a result of the homophobia of their parents, peer group, or their own internalised dislike of their sexual orientation. Young gay men or lesbians are being sold a myth that they can be straight, that lesbians are really straight men and that gay men are really straight women. This is homophobic conversion therapy.

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