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Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by yellowapple »

nigamanth wrote: post #6

To be honest, one can easily realize that this "Marc Cannon" is a fake with the amount of spelling and grammatical errors he makes. Real professionals do not make spelling and grammar errors such as: "Do you have any other question ?" "Good morning how are you this morning." "I will send you later" "Good morning, How are you doing today ?" "This is very disrespectful and all director are to meet you for training on m…

I guess I'm pretty desensitized from having had so many colleagues with atrocious professional writing skills; 'cause the writing itself didn't really raise any red flags for me until "Marc Cannon" instantly blew up at the notion of a check needing to clear before money from it could be spent.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by P5fRxh5kUvp2th »

leetcrew wrote: post #325
P5fRxh5kUvp2th wrote: post #311

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yeah... because ... you know, they'll only charge once in a first month and do nothing else.

I honestly don't understand your threat model here. from the post I originally replied to, it's clear that you already understand that you can easily reverse unauthorized charges to a credit card. if you're already reviewing your monthly statements (which you really should be, as part of sane budgeting), this is basically a non-issue. you tell your cc issuer you suspect someone has stolen your credit card info, they…

I challenge you to quote me saying I don't order takeout.

Furthermore, many people use debit cards backed by an actual bank account and the vast majority of people can't afford to have those drained in any meaningful fashion without experiencing some severe consequences.

And thirdly, when the equifax breach happened I didn't bother doing anything. Why? Because I do NOT have the attitude that it's ok to be defrauded of money since someone else will pay for it. There was nothing for them to go after.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by JCharante »

Viliam1234 wrote: post #312
grepfru_it wrote: post #264

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why why why would you send money to someone who would ask you to send it back. why can't they just convert that money state themselves? i always wonder how people end up for these scams. unless its your very close friend or family, don't launder money. i think this is a life lesson we learn in middle school and grow up to think adults are more trustworthy

Companies sometimes do things that don't make much sense. If you are not familiar with what is and what isn't "normal", it can be hard to tell the difference. For example, when I company I worked for sent me on a business trip, I was supposed to buy the flight ticket using my own money, then bring them then receipt, and then they would pay me the money back. Why couldn't they buy the flight ticket themselves instead?…

It doesn’t feel like a scam at all unless:

a) you’re buying tickets for someone else

b) that scam company also owns the airline (or if you’re buying from a third part online agency)

Otherwise how could you get scammed? Haha we tricked you into going to Atlanta but didn’t monetarily benefit from it at all!

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by Nursie »

thewebcount wrote: post #95
Nursie wrote: post #46

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Here's a question, where you are, does "Direct Debit" exist? In the UK and here in Australia, when I set up a utility account I get a message saying "why not set up a direct debit?", which means that a transfer goes straight from my account to theirs at the alotted time each month, for the amount of the bill. You get your usual bill usually a week or two before the debit goes out so you can make sure it's OK well bef…

We have it, but I don’t trust companies not to fuck it up. I don’t want to allow the 5 or 10 companies I pay monthly fees to to each have the keys to withdraw money from my account. I mean we’ve seen what happens with tech companies like PayPal and how they screw you over. I’m not letting the local electric company have that kind of access to my account! One billing error, hack, or hidden surprise fee, and I could be…

One billing error, hack or surprise fee and you’re one phone call from having it reversed under the terms of the direct debit guarantee. In the countries I’ve lived in.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by voakbasda »

brewdad wrote: post #327
jacurtis wrote: post #256

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internal-autonation.com is available right now for $10. autonation.inc is also available. I could generate 100 more like this that would fool most of the American population. Tech workers might be smart enough to avoid them, but the average person wouldn't think twice about these. For example imagine getting an email from recruiting@internal-autonation.com. Again, I know a tech worker who actually is likely to have p…

I've received completely legit emails from Chase Bank that used URLs that, on first glance, had to be fake. I followed up using alternate channels and found out that it wasn't a scam just poorly executed "security".

Chase is indeed horrible about this kind of thing. Most of their messages look like spam or scams.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by thewebcount »

TheHappyOddish wrote: post #349
thewebcount wrote: post #95

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We have it, but I don’t trust companies not to fuck it up. I don’t want to allow the 5 or 10 companies I pay monthly fees to to each have the keys to withdraw money from my account. I mean we’ve seen what happens with tech companies like PayPal and how they screw you over. I’m not letting the local electric company have that kind of access to my account! One billing error, hack, or hidden surprise fee, and I could be…

It's wild this is a concern for you, when this is extremely normal for billions of people.

There are only ~350 million in the US. The others are elsewhere and don’t suffer the same weird banking issues we do. That said, I still pay electronically, I just do it manually. I go to my banking site and enter the amount on my bill, which I’ve checked to make sure it’s accurate.

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by thewebcount »

Nursie wrote: post #364
thewebcount wrote: post #95

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We have it, but I don’t trust companies not to fuck it up. I don’t want to allow the 5 or 10 companies I pay monthly fees to to each have the keys to withdraw money from my account. I mean we’ve seen what happens with tech companies like PayPal and how they screw you over. I’m not letting the local electric company have that kind of access to my account! One billing error, hack, or hidden surprise fee, and I could be…

One billing error, hack or surprise fee and you’re one phone call from having it reversed under the terms of the direct debit guarantee. In the countries I’ve lived in.

I’m in the US for what that’s worth. What you’ve posited assumes you can get someone on the phone which is no small task these days. Also, keep in mind that something like 60% of Americans are a single surprise $500 expense away from going into debt[0]. (Luckily I’m not one of them.) But generally, it takes weeks to months to get your money back if something like this happens, and that assumes everything goes well, which it rarely does.

[0] https://www.forbes.com/sites/maggiemcgrath/2016/01/06/63-of-...

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by diavelguru »

>> You will receive your duties everyday via email

This to me is a dealbreaker. I would rather die than have daily tasks assigned.

As a jr dev this may be tolerable for a short while but after umpteen years no way!

Re: A fake job offer gone wrong

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Post by IshKebab »

ghaff wrote: post #293
IshKebab wrote: post #248

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That's what small claims court is for. Hopefully it doesn't happen to you again but if it does you can take them to small claims court. You don't need to pay a lawyer. It costs far less than €1500. That's what it's called in the UK anyway. I assume Italy has something equivalent.

All that does though is maybe get you a judgment. It doesn't put the money in your hands.

I've never done it but if they don't pay up you can apparently ask the court to send bailiffs:

https://www.gov.uk/make-court-claim-for-money/enforce-a-judg...

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