TomTom’s new mapping platform and ecosystem

Post by kevin_thibedeau » Wed, Nov 02, 2022, 5:53 PM UTC

revel wrote: post #334

fs111 wrote: post #10

I worked at Tele Atlas/TomTom until 10 years ago. There is literally nothing new in this announcement except that they are going to "steal" data from OSM now. sensor derived data, user generated content, camera vans all of that is not new. All this existed when I left, so did the people mentioned in this announcement that are still running the show. I always hoped they would eventually realize that they need a fresh…

Google Maps has one of the most abusive license practices I've seen; effectively they force every one of their competitors to use OSM. As a consequence, OSM is the default for every company in this space.

Post by club_tropical » Wed, Nov 02, 2022, 6:07 PM UTC

friend_and_foe wrote: post #326

club_tropical wrote: post #302

Curious, does anybody navigate without GPS? Why do you do it? I occasionally challenge myself, and I am always surprised how much more active my mind is, compared to GPS where my mind is passively glancing at the screen every few seconds to see if I'm on course and next turn.

I do it, because I lived in a time when you had to and I want to keep that part of my mind sharp. I'll use GPS to go somewhere novel, but after once, maybe twice, i make a point to just go there without assistance. If you don't navigate you lose spatial awareness over time, I know some people who can't tell you how to get to their job from their house.

Post by yencabulator » Wed, Nov 02, 2022, 6:12 PM UTC

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #362

jstummbillig wrote: post #323

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> It's just better. Definitely better than crappy Google Maps I struggling to see how anything could be "definitely" better than "crappy" Google Maps. To me, GMaps has made navigation about as exciting as using a door knob. It works without fail, and is so incredibly mundane, that the thought of forming a strong opinion about it makes me drowsy.

> It works without fail So long as you have a data connection or planned ahead with a downloaded region.

Post by yencabulator » Wed, Nov 02, 2022, 6:22 PM UTC

acdha wrote: post #131

Thlom wrote: post #112

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Apple Maps as well, but I have no idea why I would need directions to work from home ...

Traffic and accidents might push you into different routes, especially if you have major decision points like which route you take around some geographic feature. When I drive in Los Angeles decades back even people who’d been driving there for ages wanted traffic reports to pick between roughly equivalent freeways because almost inevitably one of them would have much worse congestion due to an accident and you could…

Post by olah_1 » Wed, Nov 02, 2022, 6:28 PM UTC

netsectoday wrote: post #179

fs111 wrote: post #10

I worked at Tele Atlas/TomTom until 10 years ago. There is literally nothing new in this announcement except that they are going to "steal" data from OSM now. sensor derived data, user generated content, camera vans all of that is not new. All this existed when I left, so did the people mentioned in this announcement that are still running the show. I always hoped they would eventually realize that they need a fresh…

Do you know that Microsoft Bing maps also "steals" the OSM data? They did some very clever "reverse stealing" as well when they contributed back to the project by providing millions of accurate building footprints. Yes, I'm being sarcastic. It's a win-win situation when ANY large mapping group joins OSM. At the very least; they will accidentally contribute road-level improvements when they work with the data. I rely…