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Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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I categorically reject ads. I want them completely abolished. I will do everything that's in my power to get them out of my machines. If I had just a little bit more courage I would go out at night with cans of spray paint and deface billboards.

I agree a lot of advertising is awful, but there is still some purpose in demonstrating your wares for potential customers. Suppose someone develops a product that you would love and would make your life better; how do you think you should find out about it?

>how do you think you should find out about it?

Word of mouth, basically. Or searching for something that I need.

What I hate most about advertising is it just shoves everything in people's faces and makes people think they need this and that. I find myself somewhat immune to ads (as much as one can be I guess), maybe I just programmed myself to ignore them growing up in early internet days. But it's so obvious the large effect that ads can have on most people.

I find out about new and cool stuff generally from peoples comments on sites like here, reddit etc. If you have a good product, word of mouth is generally pretty damn good. Or coming across something from searches for a specific need.

I just can't think about anything that I needed and found out from a standard advertisement in like.. any recent memory. Maybe I'm the outlier here.. obviously ads must work well enough but I hate them with a passion.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

#362
GrapheneOS has "Network" as a permission you can disable per app like any other permission. This is such an obvious and purposeful omission in stock Android's permission model.

I see NetGuard was mentioned in a comment, but if you have Graphene you can just install an app and never let it call home via the App Info permission menu. I do it for Google Camera and Snapseed, the few non FOSS apps on my phone.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

#363

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Most people do this? I seriously doubt it.

Within the context of people who know what uBlock origin is, given that was the original comparison, 'most' sounds accurate.

That was not the context. 4 posts up: "I really don't understand how most people can stand to browse with all the ads"

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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> Getting money for running websites is also non-mandatory? Your business problems aren't our concern. If you're financing your business by stealing personal information from users and selling it to data brokers, then you're a crook. Crooks tend to have high hosting expenses.

"Our" as in Robespierre's Committee of Public Safety concern? What do you know about hosting expenses? I have been running a website that you know and use with 100m users since 2004!

> I have been running a website that you know and use with 100m users since 2004

The only website that you know I use is this one. Are you saying that you run HN? I do not think you are that person.

If that's not the site you're referring to, I'm rather curious to know what site it is that you run, that's had 100m users since 2004(!), that can correlate a site user with this HN user. Will you tell, please?

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

#365

I categorically reject ads. I want them completely abolished. I will do everything that's in my power to get them out of my machines. If I had just a little bit more courage I would go out at night with cans of spray paint and deface billboards.

"I will do everything that's in my power"

Will you pay money for the content you consume?

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

#366

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That is quite unrealistic though. You either need to pay up or put up with the consequences of wanting a free service, such as dealing with the never ending battle of blocking ads. I wish companies would offer the opportunity to pay what you want to remove ads. People with adblock are probably more likely to pay for it, because anyone not running ads is probably not bothered by them anyway. And people running adblock…

Who says I want a free service? A lot of the time there is no paid tier.

Or the paid tier is infested with ads and/or tracking.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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95% of users have no idea what any of this is.

Developer wages would crash through the floor and all the way down to the centre of the Earth if ad blockers really took off without users also accepting micropayments or subscriptions for web services at the same time. Maybe we should be a little bit glad that the main thing keeping massive amounts of money in tech is accepted by users. The key thing that most people in tech don't appear to grok very easily is that…

If it's true that users place zero value on most of what the tech industry churns out, then maybe most of what the tech industry churns out really isn't that valuable.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

#368

I use Bromite (Chromium fork + ad block) on Android. It's pretty sad to see Google stoop so low. Back in the day they used to win because of the innovation, best products and openness. Now they can't build anything new and just trying to squeeze every last penny from what they already have.

Well its an Ad company end of the day, all their innovations add up to showing better ads.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

#369

Firefox for Android with ublock origin makes my mobile web browsing sane again. Highly recommended.

That plus noscript. Sure I usually have to spend a few seconds enabling various domains to get content to load (thanks JS!) But honestly it's worth it.

You can do this with uBlockOrigin. It provides a drop down for disabling js per domain. I run with js disabled by default just via uBO alone.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

#370

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The experience is so awful when I browse on my iPad, instead of my Android phone with Firefox+UBlock. I really don't understand how most people can stand to browse with all the ads. The modern web is so much worse than the pop up ads of the old web.

> The experience is so awful when I browse on my iPad, instead of my Android phone with Firefox+UBlock. I really don't understand how most people can stand to browse with all the ads. Most people don’t. Most people who use anything for iOS tend to use things like: - 1Blocker - super full featured, including custom script and css rules. business model is paid software, not ‘acceptable ads’ paying them for placement or…

> business model is paid software, not ‘acceptable ads’ paying them for placement or third parties paying for your data

This reads like a hint at AdBlock Plus, not uBlock. Or did I miss some controversy there?

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