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Is this the end of social networking?

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Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Probably. We ended up with a completely different internet than the one we still thought should be possible in 2004. For a brief period of time, the internet genuinely subverted the corporate beetle-men and the gatekeepers who've always owned the "official" or real world. You could send an email to a well-known, accomplished person and there was a 75 percent you'd hear back. There really was a culture of punk equalit…

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Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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This is probably the reason I was trying to limit my friend count to the very minimal figure (a little over 100), as I wanted to share my story to those who cared to listen to it. Though since Facebook started to deploy Discovery Engine, I have decided to stop using it (Deactivate the main account, leave Messenger available for contacts). I wanted to be more "connected", not having them scattered.

How is over 100 friends minimal?

The average person has about 150 people they care about. 100 friends is par for the course imo

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

#363

I think the "social" part of social networks just moved to group chats. All my friends share updates of their family events, kids' stuff etc.. over Whatsapp and Telegram. Strangers gather over topics that interest them and want to talk about it seem to have moved to discord, slack etc. The whole "broadcast yourself to the world" part of social networks just moved to Tiktok, Twitter, Instagram etc.. I think.

I'd say move back even. We simply got back to basic usage. The web2 didn't improve relationship more than the technological novelty phase.

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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I want to see more niche social networks that are only for one thing. I actually really like Strava which is for workouts only. There’s no way to share pictures of inspirational text. I’ve never seen anyone abuse the platform by sharing a run that is actually 0.1 miles plus a rant about Fox News or anything like that. If I were independently wealthy I’d spend my time building a newsfeed for musicians to share music t…

Agreed. What I love about Strava is it leverages some of the same darker parts of the human psyche that traditional social media does (desire for social status by showing off etc), but in doing so it encourages its users to actually do something extremely positive. It makes me think of how I'd like to see a really well made addictive VR based MMORPG that encouraged its users to exercise in some way to progress.

My SO openly admits that she logs in more bicycling kms than she would otherwise have done thanks to Strava. She has also just managed to convince one of her close friends to use Strava, that person is also seeing a rise in the number of logged-in kms.

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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I think it might just be that that’s not needed anymore. The social networks of the past were useful as a way to keep in touch with people. MySpace, early Facebook, and the countless others from back then. Now everyone’s online 24/7, and accessible on multiple services all at the same time, all the time. You don’t need social networks to keep in touch with anyone anymore, their original raison d'être is gone. What’s…

Agreed, the closest thing to filling that general keeping in touch for me is WhatsApp groups (other group chat apps are available). In my social group that's where pics get shared, things get organised and general life updates go. Groups form quite naturally along lines that mirror real life and groups fall apart and people move on as they do in real life. Facebook had a short lived glory when we were all open with o…

That was exactly my assertion from couple of weeks ago [1]

In India WA does an excellent job of being that social graph. There are segregated groups of family, colleagues, collage friends and what not. Messages, memes, updates are shared on those groups. Lot of commercial transactions also take place. So Facebook usage has dropped significantly. Of course WA is owned by FB.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32274785

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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She can use custom apps for YouTube like Newpipe, which offer YouTube experiences without ads and Shorts.

I hadn't heard of newpipe before so just installed it and found that it had much more intrusive ads than regular YouTube.

There are no ads on new pipe. It just has a stupid trending tab with crap that is confusing. Ignore it, this is not your feed. Go to subscriptions which is what we used to have before tech giants convinced us otherwise with curated content.

Seriously, NewPipe is what all apps should aim to be like.

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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Now that I think about it, this is correct on at least one front: I can recall chat systems that existed in the 80s . What's the feature of today's chat systems makes them qualitatively different from those that are 30+ years old?

Today's chat systems are far more accessible to people with minimal to no technical background. Install an app on your phone and you're good to go. Almost anyone can and does use them. The level of technical knowledge required to connect to IRC or a BBS in the 80s was far higher, which meant that only a tiny fraction of people bothered.

Part of that is increased accessibility, but I think the larger part is increased technical background. If I kidnapped a computer scientist from the 1960s and locked them in a room with a smartphone (turned off), it might be a while before they posted their first meme. Now almost everyone accepts that they need to learn how to use a smartphone, while the in 80s/90s it was very possible to live life without touching a computer or mobile phone.

In any event, the fact that chat programs are different or more common now doesn't mean they didn't exist in the 80s and 90s. IRC is and was chat as much as Slack or Discord are.

Re: Is this the end of social networking?

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> So Facebook adjusts, and transitions into another addiction-based advertising machine.

Like Facebook hasn't been that and tried to be even more so since their very first day.

The string of articles with threatening undertones about Tiktok should really lead people from the US to question their tendency to give a pass to the most egregious behaviour from tech companies as long as they are US.

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