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Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by jorams »

threeseed wrote: post #288
ARandomerDude wrote: post #266

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> No evidence they are dying. All we have is a single quarter's result i.e. statistically meaningless. But their first down quarter (for users) does say something . No one would be talking about this if it hadn't happened.

It's a quarter where we are seeing an inflation explosion, COVID and international uncertainty which is causing recessionary behaviour. Companies across the IT sector are cutting jobs and revising forecasts either because of actual or expected drop in revenue. Can't think anyone serious would look to derive any meaning from a single data point in this environment. For all we know the entire DAU drop could be from Ukr…

> For all we know the entire DAU drop could be from Ukraine and Russia alone.

The DAU drop happened before the war, in the quarter up to December 2021.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by rob74 »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #355
zerocrates wrote: post #329

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I noticed the last time I went to a McDonalds a huge sign on the door advertising that they're on DoorDash, Uber Eats, etc., basically saying "don't come here!"

Really short term thinking if that's true. DoorDash/UberEats might not be around forever. Its also not clear whether people will order the same amounts if an actual recession rolls around. By prioritizing DoorDash over in-store customers, you're just destroying your long-term value prop and brand.

Plus there's one small detail: you can still enjoy e.g. a pizza that's not hot anymore; other food (Indian, Chinese, ...) can mostly be kept hot without losing its quality. With burgers and fries (especially McDonalds), you have to eat them hot, and trying to keep them warm during delivery results in a soggy mess that's not enjoyable at all anymore IMHO.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by midenginedcoupe »

dsir wrote: post #139
Bjorkbat wrote: post #95

This actually makes me pretty sad. For all of Facebook's ills, it did at least do a good job of keeping me connected with friends before it got weird. Same with Instagram. Twitter is fantastic because it helps me discover new people, new interests, new worlds, in a way. TikTok doesn't feel social at all. It feels entirely too performative. Everything on there is a performance. Everything is an act. Everything is simp…

I've been working on an app https://aurdia.com/creators/ to create an ecosystem of communities that provides multiple ways outside of advertisements for the community admins to get paid from the support of their members. I think there needs to be a movement away from people's data being sold as the product from these services to really improve the quality of what we experience on the web.

I presume this is a hobby / solo effort?

Unfortunately there are grammar errors throughout this page.

E.g. the heading "Your communities place to connect" should be "Your community's place to connect".

In fact, reading through more of it, it comes across as if English is not your first language? It would be worth it to find someone to copy-edit all your content.

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Post by asdff »

site-packages1 wrote: post #137

I stopped using this years ago, except I still have an account and minorly check once a week or month depending on my mood. I'll give the same refrain I expect from most: how do I keep up with goings-on of long-lost friends, family members with whom I don't want to directly interact but want to know what they're "up to" and to know about major life events? Maybe the answer is that I should delete facebook and go back…

You can just call or text people every now and then if you want to keep up with them.

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Post by alx__ »

jackdh wrote: post #353
alx__ wrote: post #345

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For me, a large majority of my friend/family updates come through group chats. I have 4 large (10+) groups that are friend groupings from different interest areas. Which use iMessage/WhatsApp/Signal 1 huge one for a group of concert/rave friends on Signal 3 overlapping groups of various family-relatives using iMessage/WhatsApp I don't even need to open FB/IG anymore. Bye Felica

Until they start to require Facebook to log into WhatsApp..

It won't be very challenging to get folks to move to Signal

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Post by Banana699 »

stevenjgarner wrote: post #158
owlninja wrote: post #136

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Anecdotally I quit Facebook in 2016 but of my friends and family that still use it, I would say most simply use it for marketplace. They may still view the updates that people still post to see what's going on but it doesn't seem to be near as about keeping in touch (I'm in the US).

For those of us in families that are spread over the globe in a dozen time zones and separated in different countries, what other methods of connection even come close to social media? Facebook (and the rest) have provided a way for us to vicariously experience glimpses into each other's lives and in many cases reconnect with people who we never would have otherwise.

Why not "closed world" apps like Whatsapp or Discord ? I personally loath them (specifically Discord) but they seem optimized for the kind of use case you want. Facebook and friends are a huge and dysfunctional towns square, but you don't need a towns square to talk to your family, you need a private shed.

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Post by DominikPeters »

b112 wrote: post #309
SrslyJosh wrote: post #6

Nobody hates Facebook users more than Facebook, I guess. :-/ I've tried to type out several pithy comments, but the bottom line (to me) is that Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac, but it's not on the menu anymore because Taco Bell had a few really good quarters, so McDonald's decided to pivot to t…

Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac Your point is 100% valid, so don't consider this a disagreement. It is merely that McDonalds has changed, and it annoys me. I went to the one on El Camino near Oregon, and waited 7 minutes to have my order taken, and 14 minutes more for my food. Why? Doordash, and others. https://nypost.com/2022/02/14/doordash-to-penalize-mcdona…

A more important reason that McDonald's has become slow is that they've switched to just-in-time assembly of burgers. They used to have an inventory of burgers, and for most orders, you ordered and the person taking your payments immediately assembled your order. Now there is no buffer, and everything is made fresh.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by tayo42 »

nrdvana wrote: post #350
threeseed wrote: post #97

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> Facebook is dying because they stopped being Facebook a) No evidence they are dying. All we have is a single quarter's result i.e. statistically meaningless. b) No evidence that staying true to the original Facebook is the best strategy. Unquestionably, Stories has been a popular feature in both Instagram and Facebook ecosystems and perhaps certain features from TikTok will be the same. But there is plenty of evide…

I used to see posts from 50-100 friends/family each week. Now I see posts from about 5 of them. I barely use facebook because it crashes my iPad browser (I refuse to install the app) and because the feed is so packed full of autoplay videos I can't stand it. Facebook is "dying" for myself and my entire sphere of friends/family but of course that's just an anecdote.

Ive wondered about the drop in activity. Like is it less busy because people are using it less and it's boring or w/e or are the 20year olds who were posting party pictures everyday and having friend group drama just aren't doing much anymore and grinding through life without shareable stuff

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Post by InCityDreams »

DominikPeters wrote: post #368
b112 wrote: post #309

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac Your point is 100% valid, so don't consider this a disagreement. It is merely that McDonalds has changed, and it annoys me. I went to the one on El Camino near Oregon, and waited 7 minutes to have my order taken, and 14 minutes more for my food. Why? Doordash, and others. https://nypost.com/2022/02/14/doordash-to-penalize-mcdona…

A more important reason that McDonald's has become slow is that they've switched to just-in-time assembly of burgers. They used to have an inventory of burgers, and for most orders, you ordered and the person taking your payments immediately assembled your order. Now there is no buffer, and everything is made fresh.

Does 'fresh' mean 'cold', like burger king?
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