This makes me think Microsoft should just pay up and buy Intel because it will be hard to compete with Macs in a year or so.
Compete with what? Virtual Memory swapping that Apple just introduced?
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#362I'll switch once I can play my full Steam library on a machine like this. The power is there for sure.
Yeah, I wish Valve and Apple would make nice (like they did back in the day for Steam on Mac) enough to:
1) Update all the first-party Valve games to 64-bit since the 32-bit binaries are no longer supported
2) Bring Proton support to MacOS, which is what Steam uses to run Windows games on Linux and the Steam Deck console.
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I really think that's what the Framework will be in a couple of years. I use one now and it's pretty great, but does have a few (totally acceptable to me) rough edges that they're working on.
As a framework owner, there's maybe two orders of magnitude difference in build quality between a mac and a framework. The track pad and display suck for a laptop in 2022. The display has issues with calibration and resolution (understandable from where they're at right now, but still it's trash compared to an XPS or MB). The trackpad has mechanical issues that cause it to wiggle, its been reported on the forum (and…
Exactly how do you quantify "two orders of magnitude of build quality"? What units are you using for this analysis?
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Spend a few minutes talking with someone who designs hardware. Often when they release something, there are TONs of incremental improvements that they just didn't have time to get to when a new product is released. I remember having a conversation with someone who worked on hard drives in the 80s. He got so ^%$^$# excited telling me about all the improvements he worked on between generations; they were mostly things…
Indeed, that "18%" improvement is almost certainly made up of very many 1% improvements (or more likely, many improvements that each only makes difference in some scenarios).
that "18%" improvement is almost certainly made up of very many 1% improvements
My guess is 18 of them.
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Keep in mind that the air with the ram and storage of the 14 gets pretty close in price.
I guess, depending on what you mean by "pretty close". M2 MacBook Air 13" with 8-core GPU (10-core would be $80 more) * 16GB RAM, 512GB storage: $1599 * 16GB RAM, 1TB storage: $1799 M1 14" MacBook Pro with 14-core GPU * 16GB RAM, 512GB storage: $1999 * 16GB RAM, 1TB storage: $2199 So $400 cheaper, ~20%
Ah i guess I was thinking of the education pricing on the 14 or the discounts I see all the time, but those would also affect the air
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#366I like how Apple is pushing forward the computing industry to have SOC's.
However, in as much how fast an m1, m2 or the Alder lake processors are. the problem, lies in 45% in the HN demographic that's shipping dog slow software.
whether creating OS code at Microsoft, Linux or Chrome. then the rest of the web dev's.
Hopefully the industry can transition to SOC's with documented API's so we can skip the multi-layers of software i.e Firmware -> OS -> Driver's -> User Land Software to Just Hardware -> Thin OS (unikernel like) -> User land software
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#367This makes me think Microsoft should just pay up and buy Intel because it will be hard to compete with Macs in a year or so.
How much of microsoft is windows business?
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I use a windows 11 arm vm on my m1 MacBook with parallel and the experience is pretty good.
Did you have to do anything legally dubious to get that Windows ARM VM running? I thought that Windows for ARM wasn't officially available except on Qualcomm devices.
No, it was extremely easy and I was surprised about it. Just install Parallel, select windows 11, wait a bit and it’s done.
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> They've been proven right too. The vast majority of people don't want to slot in their own parts. How have they been “proven right”? Correlation is not causation. Just because they’re highly successful and they ship integrated components doesn’t mean the two are related.
The reason why their ecosystem “just works” is because it’s a tightly controlled vertically inte grated prison. The second you allow choice and a multitude of hardware and software configurations is when you start seeing complexity for users as well as instability.
I'm not saying they should, just disagreeing with the idea that it's a proven thing. Apple likely has many reasons for not selling a user-configurable Mac, but I don't believe "users don't want it" is in that list of reasons.
For example, customers definitely want lower prices, and a modular/user-upgradable Mac would clearly offer that (e.g. upgrading the stock hard drive with something much bigger, faster, and cheaper). So to say that Apple doesn't do it because users don't want it is simply wrong.
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Microsoft is a company full of bureaucrats who don't care about their product. Apple is going to take over the computing world here shortly.
No chance unfortunately. Windows 11 has pop up "notifications" that are basically ads all over. Unnecessarily hard to cleanup / customize in a biz setting. If we could deploy Apple products in a business environment we would in a heartbeat. But Microsoft just is better here currently on a lot of fronts - the last time I chased my tail here it didn't pay off. If Apple wants to compete for the business market I think t…
I have worked on big companies that do pretty much all of this on Mac. I agree that it might be harder to do than on Windows, because there is so much industry know-how on the MS side. But there is no real technical barrier for this to happen.