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Re: Tell HN: I'm Afraid We're Shutting Down

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Why are sites that should be self sufficient shut down? It's a place where people can post jobs and find jobs. Why must it end? As long as the server bill is paid. I am sure [money bag types] even on this forum would pay this if the bill was published. If not can you give permission to scape and re-release it?

the job board is not the issue. it's a tiny part of our business. our staffing company is where we had lots of success, and it is enormously labor-intensive

Thank you. I am also sorry!

Re: Tell HN: I'm Afraid We're Shutting Down

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At least, the staffing agency can negotiate a better deal than you could find and secure for yourself.

Maybe, but maybe not - and maybe that negotiated difference leads to the profit slice or a higher profit slice. Why would a person make $14.50/hour when they could make $15/hour applying directly to places? The issue may be that so few people are looking for work right now that it's easier for convicted felons to be hired, perhaps not worrying about or taking on whatever vetting process that may or may not happen thr…

>Why would a person make $14.50/hour when they could make $15/hour applying directly to places?

Yeah, the generally wouldn't, which is why you have to conclude that they don't have the option.

> maybe that negotiated difference leads to the profit slice

Of course.

Re: Tell HN: I'm Afraid We're Shutting Down

#363

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Most people don't have the location. It's expensive to live where that kind of opportunity exists.

Outside of America, maybe, but most people in America live close to a gas station or a highway intersection. My income quote comes from a gas station in a backwater town in the deep woods of Alabama, and I'm not a great guitarist or something amazing worth throwing money at.

Yeah I'm not a busker myself but I've found "middle America" and more humble populations to be more generous in general. It's not the rich who typically empathize with someone on the street, it's a working class person who's been there.

Re: Tell HN: I'm Afraid We're Shutting Down

#364

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It's your type of understanding and fervor that's needed for a 70MR to move forward. Have you considered taking it over? Think about it. Sometimes you're the solution.

Hey Wheels-thanks for sharing your positive thoughts. We had 2 business lines: our job board and our staffing business. The job board is very low touch, although it does require dedicated personnel driving employer acquisition. But the tech side is easy. By far, the bigger business is the staffing company, and it requires lots of people to land large corporate accts and service them day-to-day and drive job-seeker ac…

I think you are doing some important work. I'm pretty sure that there's a need for your services. It's just hard to keep it going with all the economic turbulence we've had these past years.

I would hope that at the very least the job board continues. It would be a big loss to have it all disappear. I wish you all the best!

Re: Tell HN: I'm Afraid We're Shutting Down

#365
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It's your type of understanding and fervor that's needed for a 70MR to move forward. Have you considered taking it over? Think about it. Sometimes you're the solution.

I haven't considered taking it over until your comment just now. I've always told myself I'd write a book and do some talks at some point in my life, but I've been heads down either trying to survive or building companies that I put it off. Thanks for the idea. Richard, I'll shoot you an email.

Glad I could help. I know it won't be a breeze but I would hope that at the very least the job board continues. I'm sure there are plenty of people that will find it very helpful now and in the future. You've gone thru many of the difficulties associated with the situation and have risen above them. There are very few people with the experience needed to help others given the same circumstances. I wish you the best!

Re: Tell HN: I'm Afraid We're Shutting Down

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Either they like being jobless (which isn’t really a typical type of person in my experience), or the job itself was terrible due to pay, commute, working conditions, company culture, etc. or they were able to find more favorable employment outside of 70M. I would love to know what jobs were difficult to fill and how much they paid because “The Great Resignation” narrative (kind of conveniently) squarely puts the bla…

Those are all possible explanations, but it seems unlikely that previously acceptable jobs suddenly turned unacceptable at the same time COVID started? Kind of hard to think something suddenly changed about the operation of the company that had been running well for the past few years.

To quote the original post:

> Now our workers were reticent to come back to work. And if they did accept a job, they’d often leave after only a few days.

Businesses fail for myriad reasons every day, even ones that functioned perfectly for years. Not every business, however, lays blame on a big and uncontrollable phenomenon to explain why it folded.

The author did not mince words — people no longer wanted to use his service. He has decided that that’s because people didn’t want to work due to a sociopolitical phenomenon that’s entirely decoupled from basics like “How good were the jobs?”, “How much did they pay?”, “How were the working conditions at these workplaces?”

This narrative completely avoids any possibility of his business making poor decisions or simply not offering a service that people want.

Re: Tell HN: I'm Afraid We're Shutting Down

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This really bums me out. I was a convicted felon at 18 years old, poor, living on the street. It wasn't any government re-integration program that helped me, it was a random person I met in highschool. I worked my way through everything -> college -> jobs -> startups -> lucky windfalls -> owning my own company. I've immigrated to Europe (3 times in the last 10 years technically), beating the legal issues each time. A…

What crime were you convicted of?

I worked on Wall St (actually had my own firm), and committed securities violations. I was stone guilty. Paid everyone back, but I had it coming. Lost everything: family, friends, all my considerable possessions, my freedom (fed prison for a couple of years). When I was released, I was destitute and homeless. But I discovered my calling in life: helping my brothers and sisters in and out of prison so that they might have the opportunity to lead a safe and productive life.

Re: Tell HN: I'm Afraid We're Shutting Down

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It's actually really good advice for those that can make it work. Not everyone is broke just because they're a criminal.

Yeah but a formerly incarcerated person who can afford flights to Micronesia probably is already doing well for themselves.

Or they're simply looking for better opportunities than the limited ones they have now?

This seems like a really silly hill to die on.

Re: Tell HN: I'm Afraid We're Shutting Down

#369
Why on Earth are you shutting down rather than offering discounted tech help on a nationwide scale??? I have to put up some static sites and transfer domains and a bunch of icky stuff and I'm sure I'm not alone when I say there are lots of folks like me who can't afford full priced, massive rfps, but would love to be able to buy just what we need-piece by piece or hour by hour at a reasonable price from workers right here in the US. Workify.co used to offer this but the founder pivoted and sold before I could ever use them.

Also so many need social media help, getting online for the first time...so small businesses don't even have websites or accurate info on their pages.

I think a simple site where you offer whatever services you can perform: tech, landscaping, painting etc at some some of discount for pre-sale would really surprise you with how well it does. No seems to want to do anything...and if you have such a large workforce that actually wants to work, then you have a goldmine. Things still need to be done desperately.

You can find an idea of services from looking at workify.cos old pages on archive.org. And pivoting isn't just for tech firms...you moving to provide service directly would come with some challenges, but you seem like you could handle them.

I noticed from your zip code that you are in San Francisco, have you consider a sale or merger with Labor Ready or something similar?

Re: Tell HN: I'm Afraid We're Shutting Down

#370

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Most people don't have the location. It's expensive to live where that kind of opportunity exists.

Outside of America, maybe, but most people in America live close to a gas station or a highway intersection. My income quote comes from a gas station in a backwater town in the deep woods of Alabama, and I'm not a great guitarist or something amazing worth throwing money at.

Sounds like you're talking about a one-time thing then rather than a sustainable practice. I think if you loiter in front of a gas station you will be rousted by police in much less than a week.
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