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> "The topic" is whether the challenge faced by the experimental subjects makes any sense. It doesn't; the challenge is to produce a string of six symbols that others can't distinguish from randomness. There is no such string. I strongly disagree with that statement. On a surface-level inspection, some strings appear to have more entropy than others ("can be distinguished from randomly generated strings"). This absol…
I withdraw my accusation of bad faith, and I apologise for that remark. I call on you to withdraw your claim that my remarks were made in bad faith. I still don't know why you felt the need to contrive a complicated betting scenario, when we were discussing a "simpler" scenario that already involved an icosohedral die. If we're using betting scenarios to model good faith, then aren't simple scenarios more useful than…
I don't want to offend you, but I still do not think you believe the claim you are making. If you actually do believe it, we should be able to formulate our disagreement in the form of a wager and use the scientific method to determine which one of us is correct.
> I still don't know why you felt the need to contrive a complicated betting scenario, when we were discussing a "simpler" scenario that already involved an icosohedral die. If we're using betting scenarios to model good faith, then aren't simple scenarios more useful than complex ones? Ergo, coin-toss is the most appropriate.
The die scenario you formulated is not suitable, because it is unrelated to our disagreement. We're looking for a wager that illustrates the disagreement, e.g. you would be taking one side of the wager and I would be taking the other side of the wager. Your die scenario is not like this, because both of us would be taking the same side of the wager in that scenario; it has no connection to our disagreement at all.
I tried my best to formulate a simple scenario that would illustrate our difference and allow us to wager on which one of us is right. Sure we could use coin-toss instead of dice. Feel free to formulate a scenario.
> But trying to talk about this stuff in terms of physical things like coins or dice inevitably turns into discussion about unfair coins and crooked dice, or whether the caster can influence the outcome; so argument by analogy quickly leads to dead ends, in this area.
The disagreement concerns whether a person can produce a sequence of numbers in a way such that another person will/will not not be able to determine whether that sequence of numbers was manufactured or generated by a random process. A generator like coin toss or dice roll is very appropriate here.