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Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

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A good time to remind everyone that when you donate to "Mozilla", you're donating to the Mozilla Foundation, which is the social justice part, not the Mozilla Corporation, which is the browser part.

Mozilla Foundation is just a department of Mozilla Corp. It's bs. Donating does nothing.

Isn't it the other way around (at least in paper)? Ex-volunteer here BTW.

Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

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I can. I'd still rather use Firefox than Chrome or Edge when it comes to privacy. "Firefox is dead ... Time to bury the putrid, rotting corpse" is ridiculously dramatic.

Mozilla as an org is a husk of it's former self. They're constantly playing catch up with Firefox, almost abandonwared thunderbird, and have little actual usable innovation. What part of Firefox is "open source" when you can't integrate in your own projects? What's the point when the tech is non portable? Chromium is the clear OS winner, so open and modular you can just make your own browsers.

> What's the point when the tech is non portable

I know that you meant something else with this, but the wording amused me as currently Firefox is the only up-to-date "portable" browser that lets you carry around your browser profile in a usb stick.

Anything with Chromium deletes your extensions, passwords etc. whenever you open it in a new computer.

Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

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NetSurf GTK and w3m are still on the list for me

Useless alternatives. you might as well suggest we use gopher. frankly they'd be better as gopher browsers.

Somebody's never been on low-end systems or stuck without a working video driver and can be happy most wikis work through TUI

Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

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post #161

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You know I let a lot of important things in Firefox slide (like the poor Webspeech API support, bad text-to-speech, some missing extensions and a lot of other things) but I still make it a habit to use it over Chrome (and recommend it to everybody) as somewhere in my mind it feels like a small revolt against the giant evil Google corp. But stuff like this and other shenanigans in the past (like Mr.robot, misuse of fu…

Firefox has no real competitive pressure and no need to improve. Google is their sugar daddy and Mozilla stopped innovating a decade ago. It's just constantly playing catchup while suckling on Google teats, desperately clinging onto relevance. Without Google nobody would pay for their browser. At this point it'd be better for the web if we standardized on Blink and moved on, cleaning up some of the invasive tracking…

Modern firefox is called librewolf or waterfox.

It respects privacy and works quite well (Actually much better than chrome based browser on my machine).

Mozilla management seems to be the issue, not firefox itself.

Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

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Is there a good alternative to Firefox or Chrome? Chromium-based browsers really bog down my MacBook, so I've been using Firefox instead. However, I tend to notice small bugs, and been wondering if there are other useful and lightweight browsers.

Safari. Other than those three there aren't any mature browser engines.

Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

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How was this principle violated in this case?

It gives Mozilla the opportunity to connect my IP address with my browser with my Mozilla account. Mozilla needs to bow down to the US govt and supply them with this information should they have stored it, if the govt feels they need it.

Why do you have a Mozilla account?

Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

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post #161

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You know I let a lot of important things in Firefox slide (like the poor Webspeech API support, bad text-to-speech, some missing extensions and a lot of other things) but I still make it a habit to use it over Chrome (and recommend it to everybody) as somewhere in my mind it feels like a small revolt against the giant evil Google corp. But stuff like this and other shenanigans in the past (like Mr.robot, misuse of fu…

I switched to Brave - no regrets

a browser who does not develop their own code base but reuse google's, with a business model based on monetizing users attention to ads network while pretending to protect privacy and block ads.

I wonder what could go wrong here ? maybe their history of misbehaving with money and injecting affiliate links in users browsing or the security issues and leaks could give us a pointer or two.

Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

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Suppose you want to do something anonymously. 1. Download installer from Mozilla from your home network - Mozilla now has your home IP and installer ID. 2. Transfer it via USB key to a secure, anonymous computer - one not linked to you, on a network not associated with you, such as public WiFi. 3. Install Firefox using that installer on said computer. It transmits the installer ID to Mozilla, which matches the one gi…

I can't believe the apologists commenting on this. Firefox put a lot of effort into tracking download to install behavior. Maybe this is the only violation you know about. There's no reason to continue to believe in Mozilla's good faith. They've been captured, and are 90% dependent on Google revenue. Discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28954390 Firefox is dead. It's time to move past denial. It does…

ever heard of waterfox or librewolf ?

Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

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I thought this would be a somewhat clickbaity title, but not:

> This data will allow us to correlate telemetry IDs with download tokens and Google Analytics IDs. This will allow us to track which installs result from which downloads to determine the answers to questions like, "Why do we see so many installs per day, but not that many downloads per day?"

So it's basically to spy on people and track who's redistributing the installer or installing Firefox multiple times.

As a software developer, I fail to see how this would help fix bugs or anything alike.

Re: Each Firefox download has a unique identifier

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I did, too. All I can tell you is that when I have Brave running on an M1 with four tabs open, it's consistently using 240MB of memory. When I fire up Firefox Developer Edition with the same tabs open, it starts at 660MB and quickly balloons up to 1.05GB of memory usage.

My experience also. I’ve slowly edged away from Firefox and have primarily been using Brave and Safari for the last 6mos or so. Brave just feels snappier, and it’s close enough to Chrome that most work required websites aren’t broken.

They are still broken, you just can’t see it.
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