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Which services well be denied to the left? I'm also curious about your plans for regulatory agencies.
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#362I flagged this, because this is the most toxic ”discussion” I’ve ever seen on HN.
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Even more stupid: Canadian media and Twitter users saying they are “fringe” because by a poll (totally no incentive to lie on those), 85% of truckers are vaccinated. To which I say: A. I bet more than 15% are unvaccinated because why answer honestly with Canada’s level of restrictions and penalties? B. If it is actually 15%, that’s not fringe, and also that’s low enough that dropping the mandate should be reasonable…
Others have already highlighted that you can be vaccinated and anti-mandate, which is what many people are focusing on. From a numbers perspective, 91.54% of Canadians 18+ have received at least one dose. 88.91% of 18+ have received two. It's /possible/ that truckers are widely unvaccinated (perhaps they all subscribe to the same train of thought), but it's unlikely.
"He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." — Thomas Paine, Dissertation on First Principles of Government (1791)
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#364The blatant misinformation is this thread is astounding. If you think this is “just a protest”, you don’t live in Ottawa and have no clue what’s going on If you think vaccines are being forced on anyone, you have no clue what’s going on in Canada. If you think GFM planned to “steal” the money, you clearly have no clue that the organizer’s plan called for excess funds to be given to charities. The comments in this thr…
Trudeau and the Liberals are loving the damage "The Honkening" causes to the Conservative brand. Erin O'Toole spent the last election trying to convince Canadians that the Conservative Party of Canada is civilized and not a tribe from Trumpistan.
That has all gone down the drain, the CPC kicked O'Toole out and the party is about to swallow the Trump bait, hook and line. Even populist conservatives like Doug Ford (Ontario's premier) can see this.
Meanwhile, the Liberal Party of Canada is just giggling and partying as quietly as they can contain themselves.
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"This is entirely outside of the mission of GoFundMe." https://twitter.com/gofundme/status/1278759152492220416 It is not if they agree with what is happening. They are fine with occupying if they back the cause.
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Define “forced.” Your answer will speak volumes.
Okay, you’ve defined forced elsewhere: “That is not being forced. That is called choice. Choices have consequences.” That’s literally forced but in an nonviolent matter. Kind of like how people can be correctly be called “forced” to file tax returns in the US. They are forced, stop playing word games.
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The vaccine isn’t being forced on anyone. Body autonomy is no more being violated here than any other time in history where vaccines have been required to do certain things, of which there are many examples. Not to mention, all the things you listed at the start of your comment have been done by the Ottawa occupiers. I don’t like to call them truckers because most are not, and most truckers are against this occupatio…
Really? They've attacked police and burned people's homes? Seceded? I've not been following the news much, but I haven't seen this.
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Take it or get fired. That is being forced for all intents and purposes. Shaq said it well: https://twitter.com/ginacarano/status/1489421001918083073
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No vaccine = no work = no food = die I'd call that "force" even if it's 2 degrees removed.
You do know that the vast majority of jobs in Canada do not require being vaccinated, right? Did you know that vaccine requirements for certain jobs have existed for decades, and no one has lost their minds like this? Do you think it’s possible that right wing politicians are purposely trying to cause outrage over something that has been a normal and accepted practise in order to further their political goals?
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Anyone complaining about some big "left" collusion is essentially bashing a straw man. The actual truth is that there are more than two groups of political interests. Corporate interests are biased towards corporate interests , period. They're basically indifferent on social issues, and so from the right they appear "left" because they echo the broadest appeal as a marketing technique. Shoehorning everything that you…
The article is, in fact, doing the opposite of "complaining about some big 'left' collusion." It's an explanation of how a vocal minority can produce similar results without any sort of conspiracy. > They're basically indifferent on social issues, and so from the right they appear "left" because they echo the broadest appeal as a marketing technique. The notion that this stuff has the "broadest appeal as a marketing…
I'd say the larger difference is left activism is pro-social, or hyper-social in the extreme. "Black Trans" is promoting one specific identity, but not at the expense of others (apart from dilution). Whereas what is perceived as right activism has to rise to the level of being anti-social - a simple picture a happy heteronormative traditional family does not suffice (since it is taken for granted as the norm). Rather it defines itself by explicitly opposing left activism, and such overt conflict is a commercial non-starter.