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Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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I love Joe. I use Spotify exclusively to listen to his podcast. I listen to every episode… I wish there was a way to tell them if it wasn’t for his show I’d never use their app but I suspect they already know that. Unfortunately I think attacks on his having been prescribed ivermectin and his guests like the highly published cardiologist and the guy that contracts with the defense department and has patents related t…

Well, nyt and wapo got a Pulitzer for a made up collusion, and most don't even know that Durham report has claimed it was so (made up) and therefor pulitzers were badly earned. Still think media is honest?

I didn’t mean to imply that they were always honest or aren’t agenda driven. Unlike Joe Rogan of late, it doesn’t come up too often / isn’t something I want to inject into every conversation I have.

For example I’m always annoyed when I see the treatment of Julian Assange and how the corporate press ignores or denigrates him.

If I’m having a 3 hour chat with Jim Gaffigan in public or private I’m not going to bring it up even once.

If I would chat with Bill Maher or Edward Snowden for 3 hours I’d assume it’d come up.

Joe just injects it into all of his discussions. I can understand why he would be bothered by the attacks on his character but it seems to me like it has become detrimental to his state of mind day to day.

Maybe he needs to smoke some weed or DMT by himself and do some introspection ;)

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> The left-wing nerds that are socially awkward decide who gets the right to speak :) Sounds like you’re pro censorship and want more government control of the free market.

Nope ... I am for free speech, not for a bunch leftist technocrats deciding whom can speak on twitter, facebook, etc. :)

But is a pointless discussion - USA is heading to the dumpster of history or to a civil war so fast that nothing can be done.

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I switched from Spotify to Apple Music fairly recently and I am still shocked on the daily how poorly built Apple Music is. In the several years I subscribed to Spotify I never had issues of content not loading or choppiness in the playback, but with Apple Music it is nearly every day. The only thing Apple Music has going for it over Spotify (in my opinion) is that the recommendations are easily 10x better for discov…

> The only thing Apple Music has going for it over Spotify (in my opinion) is that the recommendations are easily 10x better for discovering new content. Thank you! I spent the last few years working on improving the quality of those recommendations!

Great work!

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Some of them are really baffling. Tom Segura, Bert Kreischer, Ian Edwards? Tim Ferris?

Likely delete out of requests by the guests.

If that's true then why wouldn't Spotify say so? It's not a good look for them that they're just gone.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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I love Joe. I use Spotify exclusively to listen to his podcast. I listen to every episode… I wish there was a way to tell them if it wasn’t for his show I’d never use their app but I suspect they already know that. Unfortunately I think attacks on his having been prescribed ivermectin and his guests like the highly published cardiologist and the guy that contracts with the defense department and has patents related t…

I share a similar story to yours. For a while, I used to call Spotify the 'Joe Rogan app' because that's all I ever used the Spotify app for. It's because of JRE that I discovered this whole new world of podcasting.

I still listen to every other podcast through the Apple Podcasts app. The nice thing about the Spotify exclusive podcast was it is much easier to skip ads. JRE is the only podcast I’ve listened to on Spotify that has first party ads you can just fast forward through.

It was an NPR pledge drive that really drove me to podcasts

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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A lot of pre-COVID episodes deleted meanwhile recent controversial COVID episodes remain.

I like the idea that it's the guests themselves asking for deletion because they no longer want to be associated with him.

This was my thought too but I can't seem to find anything from Spotify's new policy that touches on content removal for subjects unwilling to appear on a recorded podcast. Maybe legal disputes could be playing a hand here, however the timing is too convenient. Easiest answer seems to be Spotify is doing some cleaning on their yard after the recent backlash.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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The anti-censorship comments here of course resonate with me, but I'm curious about the legality of this. Spotify advertised Rogan and sold paid subscriptions. Now they've unilaterally removed the ability to listen from millions of paying customers, at least some of whom subscribed exclusively for the purpose of listening to JRE. Do these customers have no recourse?

I'm sure it is in their terms that they can remove anything whenever they want. They do it to music all the time.

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This is bigger than Spotify. Rogan was a proactive person conducting open research into the world around him. When proactive people investigate things and share their findings, it now only takes a few to dislike the findings, fuss, and have the findings removed. To those that support this, I have 4 questions: 1. Is disincentivising sharing knowledge really good for the world? 2. Is it reasonable to expect 100% of inq…

He's not doing research...he's having people on telling stories. So me his scientific data that is peer reviewed like the research he is going against.

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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I am going to call this some kind of technical error. The episodes deleted are so mundane that it's impossible to imagine taking these down but keeping all kinds of horrible music that is explicitly violent, rapey and racist.

I like the idea some of those might be the guests themselves asking to be removed due to the controversy.

And you really like spreading that on all the threads here is seems

Re: Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I switched from Spotify to Apple Music fairly recently and I am still shocked on the daily how poorly built Apple Music is. In the several years I subscribed to Spotify I never had issues of content not loading or choppiness in the playback, but with Apple Music it is nearly every day. The only thing Apple Music has going for it over Spotify (in my opinion) is that the recommendations are easily 10x better for discov…

> The only thing Apple Music has going for it over Spotify (in my opinion) is that the recommendations are easily 10x better for discovering new content. Thank you! I spent the last few years working on improving the quality of those recommendations!

Can you tell me more? Last I tried (a number of years ago), the recommendations were completely mainstream and uninteresting, whereas Discover Weekly routinely dredged up almost-unknown artists that quickly turned into favorites. Can Apple Music do something similar today? Does it use a similar approach to Spotify or is it curated somehow?
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