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Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Hmm, if you're using x@example.com via G Suite, how do you transition away from G Suite but still use x@example.com to login to your Android phone and other Google sign-in related stuff? Anything you need to be careful of so you don't get locked out?

When you cancel GSuite you can enable Cloud Identity Free. That will keep all your accounts, just the GSuite functionality will be dropped. At least that was the way it worked a while ago.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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I knew something like this would probably come, but it doesn't make it any better. Complete BS. 16 years ago me and my friends signed up for "GMail for your domain". That's it. We wanted to use GMail, which was by far the best email available at the time, and have email addresses at our own domain instead of @gmail.com. That's it. Since that time several of us have been using our GFYD/GSuite/Workspaces accounts as ou…

> I'd be less angry if they offered some way to escape. Let use merge/transition our accounts with personal Google accounts. Let us have personal accounts with custom domain, iCloud offers that feature now. Same exact story, although we have been using it like this closer to 20 years now.

yep. Set mine up in 2004. I would gladly switch over to a normal gmail account with a custom domain name, yet there is no way to preserve any of my existing google identity.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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I don't know if it was inevitable, but I do not share a sentiment here. Supporting domain mail with web interface and services around is costs resources, and Google have no obligation spending it forever. It was a nice gift and I feel grateful. I also feel it is a perfect time to try out new CloudFlare's domain email forwarding service, while it is free.

Where are you planning to forward email to?

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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I'd like to call myself wise because I've alwayed used a "genuine" Google account (@gmail.com) when I needed to purchase digital goods. Not that I knew they would stop offering the free version of G Suite, but there have always been some strange inconsistencies between a genuine Google account and a G Suite one, like feature differences and regional availability.

But I'm still using G Suite to forward emails sent to my domain to my primary Google account, so I must find some alternatives to it.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

#366

Huh. I thought that was what I had, but I haven't heard this directly from them. It's the first I've heard of it. I used a microscopic subset of the features. Aside from them hosting my email, I don't think I'm any different from other users. It's just me; I'm not really a business. I notice some differences, mostly in limitations: less storage, features of my Pixel phone that sometimes don't work with that account.…

> Perhaps I'm on yet another different legacy thing. I keep wondering the same thing. Haven't seen any communication at all from Google, so maybe for some reason I don't fall into this thing that is no longer free? They can't possibly do this to me and not even tell me... can they?

I haven't heard anything yet either. I spend about $5k/mth on GCP so I wonder if they might be making an exception for spenders....

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Agreed. I'm fucking livid. I don't know what their freeloader costs are on the grandfathered Google domain accounts, but I'm having a hard time believing it's going to be worth the amount of goodwill they're going to burn by shitting on their most loyal users of all. These folks have been using Google services (and presumably suggesting as much to others) for at least 10 years. But I'm not paying $100/mo so my extend…

I've been reading people on HN talk about how Google is burning their goodwill and there will be Very Serious Consequences for a literal decade. Over that time Google stock price has gone up 10x.

Google's stock price is so driven by its advertising business that it is absolutely disconnected from Google burning its goodwill in "prosumer" services like this and some of the others cycled through on HN. Given how large Google's advertising division's reach is outside of Google products, its probable that even a large boycott of Google's first party consumer services wouldn't easily affect the advertising business bottom line. At least for now. At some point they could burn enough goodwill that even advertisers and sites that need advertising won't work with them. (Given what we know from DoubleClick's legacy even before they merged into Google though, the internet in general doesn't seem to mind evil companies running their ads so long as they get paid their share of ad revenue.)

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

#368

I knew something like this would probably come, but it doesn't make it any better. Complete BS. 16 years ago me and my friends signed up for "GMail for your domain". That's it. We wanted to use GMail, which was by far the best email available at the time, and have email addresses at our own domain instead of @gmail.com. That's it. Since that time several of us have been using our GFYD/GSuite/Workspaces accounts as ou…

If you still want the domain email address you can register the domain with either google or cloudflare and then set up email forwarding to a personal email of your choice.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

#369

I'm surprised so many of you are upset by this. I use a paid email for the custom domain (not gmail) but I feel like they're requesting a pretty reasonable fee after such a long time of free usage.

I think the big outrage is directed at losing all the apps, movies, books, etc... that you purchased from Google using that account. It feels like they should provide some way of transferring those purchases to another account.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why migrate to Fastmail for $5/user, if one can keep their installation of G Suite for $6/user?

1) You can stop feeding personal data into the Google (advertisement) ecosystem 2) Google is notorious for killing off services or changing their agreements at a moments notice like here so there is a chance they'll drop their offering or increase prices. 3) Google support is either terrible or nonexistent (unless you're lucky enough to get your complaint to the HN frontpage). I'm an affected user and I plan to put i…

1) valid point, but how can I be sure another email provider won't do just the same, or even worse? At least Google is sitting on it's data using it to profit for itself. Smaller actors are just wholesaling everything they can reach.

2) I don't agree with "moments notice" sentiment. 3 months are quite enough for most users (and they can buy more time for a relatively small price). The free lunch was off the menu for more than nine years, I am actually surprised they gave us so much time.

3) There are replies around this post that for paying users Google support is significantly better. Good opportunity to check if it is really so.

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