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Re: Twitter suspends account tracking Maxwell trial

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It depends if Twitter's censors agree with the views expressed or not.

There should be a federal law that requires that these moderation teams keep extensive records of their censorship work product in order to maintain their immunity. This censorship work product would then be have to be made available in discovery. Lawsuits challenging a censorship action or account suspension relating to censorship should be granted an exception to the otherwise binding arbitration agreement. The pur…

There's several problems with centralized web service corporations maintaining effectively public commons on for-profit "private property" and being regulated by one government or another: they can do anything they want if they don't offend the government structures, they're also at the behest and service of a particular government who can tell them what they can and can't do, they're not classified or regulated as utilities, and can censor any idea or push whatever agendas they like (or whoever pays them enough).

Only a nonprofit out-of-reach of any particular governments' jurisdiction can remain neutral, but they also need minimal, clear, healthy, and conscientious moderation to not be springboards for harmful activities.

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How can you trust someone who says "There was not outside amplification"? How would the controller of the twitter account differentiate between simple virality and outside amplification? Of course, it's lame that Amy can buy a bunch of bots to get Bob's account canceled.

Well, if they cancel the viral stuff, that might be a net improvement for the world as a whole...

Can't have the populace communicating with each other about things...

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I mean....

Again. Zero proof. Think about all the dots to connect for it to be a murder and how few for it to be a suicide. He had absolutely every reason to be suicidal and the evidence says it's very likely. For it to be murder we have to assumed a giant chain of events for which we have proof of none. * Very powerful people procured his services for something illegal * Epstein had incriminating evidence on those powerful peo…

Yea you're right, it would require some kind of centralized intelligence agency to exist in order to pull off such a feat. That simply doesn't exist as we all know as that is absurd to have such a thing doing that exact thing professionally for over 50 years in the name of national security.

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Eh, that's a bit overused and tends to fall into the "slipper slope" fallacy territory a lot of the time it's rolled out. I'm withholding judgement on this one as there seems to be some indication the account was using using sock puppets to make them more popular. If that's true (and it might not be) that would lower the temperature on this ban to a standard TOS violation of a well-known policy.

> tends to fall into the "slipper slope" fallacy territory a lot of the time it's rolled out Yeah, and the "that's a 'slippery slope' fallacy" rebuttal is often addressing something that is an actual slippery slope a lot of the time it's rolled out. Pointing out a slippery slope by itself isn't proof that the thing in question isn't real or isn't bad. Slippery slopes are real, and are quite often bad. https://en.wiki…

Fair points: there are instances where long term gradual changes tooks small steps each time to reach a point far from the initial step. In this particular case where there might have been (not sure it's been established definitively) a ToS violation then I don't think we're at that that point if there actually was such a violation.

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I care deeply about the hacker news community, but engaging a conspiracy theorist on a standard discussion is destructive and dangerous to the overall community because such a conversation is a grounds to express more "facts" and reach a broader market. My response quickly points out the connection to existing dangerous communities and reinforces our reality as people casually browsing an internet forum and preempts…

Since you care deeply about the HN community, you should refrain from posting low-quality comments and breaking the site guidelines. As they point out, the way to deal with egregious comments is to not reply, to downvote/flag, and possibly email us at hn@ycombinator.com so we can take a look. Otherwise we just end up in a tedious, offtopic spiral.

Someday I hope to have half the composure and calm you continue to maintain and nurture, dang.

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You can't attack another user like this on HN, regardless of how wrong they are or you feel they are. The damage it causes to the ecosystem outweighs any benefit of behaving this way. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful. If you feel another account is abusing HN, emailing us at hn@ycombinator.com so…

I apologize. I'm just about worn out by the conspiracy theorists after these last couple of years. That's no excuse – I should have just quietly notified the admins. I'm sorry, it won't happen again.

Re: Twitter suspends account tracking Maxwell trial

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post #357

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I care deeply about the hacker news community, but engaging a conspiracy theorist on a standard discussion is destructive and dangerous to the overall community because such a conversation is a grounds to express more "facts" and reach a broader market. My response quickly points out the connection to existing dangerous communities and reinforces our reality as people casually browsing an internet forum and preempts…

Since you care deeply about the HN community, you should refrain from posting low-quality comments and breaking the site guidelines. As they point out, the way to deal with egregious comments is to not reply, to downvote/flag, and possibly email us at hn@ycombinator.com so we can take a look. Otherwise we just end up in a tedious, offtopic spiral.

The discussion here focused on a single spam account being banned from Twitter, flagging comments and suspecting accounts promoting conspiracy theories validates that disgusting worldview (that big tech has a nefarious connection to underaged trafficking). But as the other comment said I do appreciate your civility. I would like to point out this tedious off topic spiral has the benefit of refusing the engage the dangerous ideas we were originally responding too, and instead pivoting the topic.
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