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Starship is still not understood

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Re: Starship is still not understood

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post #343

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What you describe is the present condition.

No, now you have many private groups with slightly different interest temporarly unified. Once you create one gigantic mega contractor, that group has a much more specific and target interested in lobbying for that one specific program.

In other words, no worse than the present condition.

But it would be increasingly awkward for Congress to be seen to force NASA to choose the $2B launcher from vendor A over the $10M or $50M (or whatever) launcher from vendor B.

Re: Starship is still not understood

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Man, there you go again, trying to turn this into a debate where we pick apart everything the opponent says line by line. What a waste of time. Take care, good luck with your mental health.

There you go again, responding with insults rather then arguments. A debating in a forum that is about debating articles about technology shocking.

Apologies, my last sentence was unprofessional and unhelpful. I was not at my best in that comment.

My other points stand, though. Everyone in the industry that's paying attention knows that Starship, IF it delivers on its promises, will change the game. It's a strawman to say those in industry are ignorant of this. Yet we've heard Starship-esque promises many times before, spoken with just as much fervor and certainty as displayed by your friend the JPL blogger.

I don't perceive this as a forum for ruthless debate but rather sharing ideas in an atmosphere of cooperation. Debate closes off context and undermines trust, which in turn limits communication bandwidth severely and often destroys it entirely.

The act of debate can most certainly be productive, but in an open and unbounded forum where the ruleset of "debate" - and thus its goals - are undefined, competitive framing has a consistent tendency to devolve into semantics and entrenchment of positions rather than productive insight.

Of course, you're free to pick my statements apart further, if you find that productive. But I will spend my time elsewhere.

Re: Starship is still not understood

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Who is going to pay to fly these sickly retirees to the moon, and then continuous supply them with resources that are literally free on Earth (ie air)? Medicare?

Moreover, if they struggle with earth gravity, how will they survive launch and landing?

By using the space elevator, of course!

Re: Starship is still not understood

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Would anyone like to estimate the CO2 emissions produced by that?

Musk has promised that eventually they will use synthetic methane to launch Starship, so net emissions will be zero.

He also promised fully self driving cars were six months away. And sweared Vernon Unsworth was a pedophile.

Not sure why PR statements matter.

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