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YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Yes, vaccines prevent you from ending up in the ICU, but they aren't preventing the spread. Did you think the vaccines would prevent you from contracting covid? Wear your masks people.

You could make the same argument about any commonly administered vaccine if only 58% of the population are vaccinated. There were a number of outbreaks of measles several years ago when the localized percentage of people vaccinated dropped below 95%.

In regards to covid-19 in particular:

> Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68 countries and 2947 counties in the United States

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8481107/

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Silencing people and pretending it’s OK is not going to work. It’s a double edge sword. Because one day they’re going to silence you. The math doesn’t work out long term.

Well we have some serious short term issues.

To me, the internet is to the First Amendment as nuclear weapons are to the Second. Neither were anticipated when the Bill of Rights was written.

In the 18th century, no one knew people might invent weapons that could kill on such a scale and at such distance. No one knew people could make a beheading video and instantly share it with millions. No one anticipated algorithms that could amplify the worst human impulses to such a degree.

I'd love to see these problems solved in a better way. Here at Hacker New we have a half decent algorithm for promoting quality content based on upvotes and downvotes and flags and karma and such. When that fails, we have Dang's good judgement as a backup. That's censorship too, and it makes this a better place. It's not perfect, but if you were to take the approach of "any censorship is wrong" approach, Hacker News wouldn't be very pleasant.

YouTube is at a much larger scale, but they have a right to do something. Presumably you are ok with them disallowing beheading videos. What about videos encouraging suicide and providing "help"? What about videos telling people how to make chemical weapons? What about videos planning government overthrows? Where do you draw the line?

I don't necessarily have a long term solution, but I support them taking some short term measures.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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> but there's bigger rappers that have been peddling conspiratorial, third eye awakening wish-wash for at least 20 years. > This is a weird video to target So we can all agree that YT isn't arbitrarily censoring anti-authoritarian conspiracy theories, but is specifically censoring conspiracy theories related to COVID? This seems like a good thing, that they are casting a narrow net, no? Would you prefer they censor A…

No, I think targeting COVID conspiracies makes sense. I think this video _specifically_ is small fry compared to some with 100k-1M views peddling the same nonsense in prettier packaging. I'm thinking about podcasts, radio show recordings, stuff like PragerU -- that are arguably not art or open for interpretation, but directly trying to convince viewers to believe bullshit surrounding the vaccine, safety, and COVID.

Thanks for clarifying, makes sense.

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That is... hard to read.

easier to just watch it: https://tv.gab.com/channel/realbrysongray/view/lets-go-brand...

Weird that YouTube doesn't want Gab's amazing content[0]. More for Gab, then!

0: https://tv.gab.com/category

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how about removing videos showing people smoking, because that too is bad for health

If it is a medical doctor saying that there is science that says that smoking is good for you.... I'm taking a wild guess here, but I'm pretty sure that's getting taken down. At least if it starts getting lots of views. Because it would be a dangerous lie.

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> The vaccination has been thoroughly shown to work How has this been shown? Countries with a high vaccination rate don't have a lower infection rate than other countries: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10654-021-00808-7 And after 3 months of being fully vaccinated, whatever level of immunity you had is completely gone by then: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02689-y > Unfortunately, the vaccin…

So the first link is not a study. There isn't an examination or even a reference of studies that provide evidence to the contrary. Not to say that the article can be dismissed fully but keep in mind it's not painting a full picture.

The second link is about a study that looks at transmission of the Delta variant from a breakthrough infection. It did not look into wether the chances of getting infected after vaccination decreased.

Finally the vaccine dramatically reduced your chances of dying. I'd say that's some pretty good protection from symptomatic disease, not just some protection.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Surprised how quickly YouTube deleted this video, when they firmly resisted both internal and external calls to take down a different rap video promoting violence against Chinese:

https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/30/22358804/youtube-yg-song-...

I wonder how Chinese Googlers feel about this development.

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Italy is at 80% and they still see the need to ban unvaccinated people from places. New Zealand is planning to ban unvaccinated people form places after we reach 90% of over-12-year-olds. So even with a massive 80% vaccinated, the vaccine doesn't stop the spread. Maybe it would at 90%? 95%? Who knows. In New Zealand, the unvaccinated are largely the indigenous Maori, not stereotypical anti-vaxxers.

Herd immunity from measles requires at least 95% of the population vaccinated. For polio, it's 80%.

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He is being wronged, as are you. Each and every time a company takes freedom away from their users they are being wronged, and when the company is as big as Youtube then we all get wronged. The "defiant tantrum" is simply taking the stance that that is not admisible, how you consider that to be childish behavior I don't even know. >Are you truly the victim today, in this pandemic? So give up freedoms, for the common…

You don't have the freedom to murder, enslave, or kidnap. I don't think you should have the freedom to spread a deadly disease. Especially since COVID-19 spreads without symptoms, we have to prioritize prevention. Besides, we've had our freedoms eroded time and again since the World Trade Centre attacks. Why are some Americans choosing now to draw a line in the sand? Because previously the laws were targeting brown s…

I've been saying things like this since 1991 and before; so its not just "choosing now to draw a line in the sand". Back then it was "Politically Correct is just being sensitive, it's nothing like censorship" ...

The goals keep creeping but the justifications are always the same: People have to be saved from themselves!

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