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Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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I’ve been using Brave search for several months now. I switched the day that it was announced. The quality is fairly good, but I’m having troubling telling whether it’s just my own halo effect or if the initial quality that experienced has started to slip a little as it indexes more widely or something. At first I was impressed with how little spam ended up in top results, but lately exact queries for Python function…

I remember reading in HN an idea about allowing people to customize the weights used to filter search results - a search engine that provided that, where I could use some curated configuration file. Maybe I could have profiles like "cooking", "programming", "news" and help the search engine even better to understand my intent. Or just have the "don't show results from this site again" button from youtube taken into g…

> Or just have the "don't show results from this site again" button from youtube taken into google results,

millionshort.com has a "block this domain" option. It can be useful to combine it with the filter "hide results from top 1,000 sites".

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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I'm never logged in to Google, and don't even store cookies by default (although that may or may not be enough to prevent all tracking/personalisation, it's more than "the average" user and does seem to keep the worst out, not that personalisation is necessarily bad; the singular reason I have an account is because I actually like YouTube personalisation – without it I just get idiotic nonsense on the frontpage and n…

I'm not sure if I did it right, but I searched for "Cambodian date writing conventions" and got this as first result. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_format_by_country

Yes, my search terms weren't the best, and I did find what I wanted soon afterwards. However, just the inclusion of "dates" shouldn't bring up loads of spam (and most likely scam) sites.

(What I actually wanted to know is how widespread usage of the Khmer calendar is, and if I could get away with just supporting Gregorian).

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Joe Rogan also commented on this cover-up a few days ago: > "Look, if I wanted to find specific cases about people who died from vaccine-related injuries, I had to go to Duck Duck Go. I wasn’t finding them on Google,” Rogan urged. [1] https://summit.news/2021/10/19/video-joe-rogan-accuses-googl...

I can find info about vaccine-related injuries fine on Google. It's actually easier than on DDG: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=covid+vaccine-related+injuries https://www.google.com/search?q=covid+vaccine-related+injuri... I'm assuming he's just upset that blogspam that inanely conflates VAERS with evidence of injuries actually related to COVID vaccines shows up higher on DDG because that reinforces his false presuppositi…

For reference, a picture of the results: https://i.judge.sh/forked/Party/chrome_TpfzKRLp5k.png

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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How decent is Brave as a browser? I've been very hesitant on it as a primary browser due to them starting up their own cryptocurrency (BAT), adding automatic affiliate cryptocurrency links in pages, and a history of serving their own ads on top of others.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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I remember reading in HN an idea about allowing people to customize the weights used to filter search results - a search engine that provided that, where I could use some curated configuration file. Maybe I could have profiles like "cooking", "programming", "news" and help the search engine even better to understand my intent. Or just have the "don't show results from this site again" button from youtube taken into g…

This is where ad-based businesses show their ugly side: The more control you have over what you see, the fewer ways they have to slip you inconspicuous ads. This is why all content feeds like Facebook and Twitter get vaguer as time goes by, and it's why Google will never give up control over results unless it legally has to.

It's also why every social network moved to an algorithmic feed. Had it remained chronological, our primitive brains would have noticed content from yesterday come up after a certain point, signaling to us that we are caught up and don't need to scroll further.

Can't imagine how catastrophic that would be to their ad business.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Joe Rogan also commented on this cover-up a few days ago: > "Look, if I wanted to find specific cases about people who died from vaccine-related injuries, I had to go to Duck Duck Go. I wasn’t finding them on Google,” Rogan urged. [1] https://summit.news/2021/10/19/video-joe-rogan-accuses-googl...

And he would know because why? He’s a loud personality with an audience.

He related his personal experience of searching for something in Google, not being able to find it, and then finding it straight away in DDG, a search engine that does not try to do mass opinion shaping. No special credential necessary for that.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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How decent is Brave as a browser? I've been very hesitant on it as a primary browser due to them starting up their own cryptocurrency (BAT), adding automatic affiliate cryptocurrency links in pages, and a history of serving their own ads on top of others.

You can disable the cryptocurrency stuff and if you're worried about ads you could install whatever ad blocker youre currently using. Underneath everything it's just Chromium. I've been using it for a year or so.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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You know what, I welcome a new search provider, even if it's by a cryptocurrency company. I'd rather see Qwant succeed, but their search is having trouble competing with even duckduckgo. What I don't see is where Brave gets its image search results from. After Microsoft blatantly started serving the CCP by blocking queries for "tank man", which as far as I know they've never actually apologised for, just explained it…

> I'd rather see Qwant succeed, but their search is having trouble competing with even duckduckgo. Why? (I use the latter.) > Microsoft blatantly started serving the CCP by blocking queries for "tank man" Works fine for me [1]. [1] https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=tank+man&form=HDRSC2&fi...

DuckDuckGo, Qwant, Ecosia, Yahoo, etc. they all rely on Bing (Some only for images)[1].

> Works fine for me

Not on June 4th[2] (the date when the Tiananmen Square massacre ended). Microsoft "fixed" it after the backlash.

[1]: https://www.searchenginemap.com/

[2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27398376

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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I'm actually tempted to start using Brave. I'm still holding out with Firefox despite Mozilla trying very hard to get rid of us (to the point where the thought has struck me more than once if the current CEO of Mozilla is in the pocket of Google). If at some point the last competing mainstream browser engine is gone I'll probably go for Brave and I might start testing it this week.

Mitchell Baker (Mozilla CEO) makes $3 million a year, and Mozilla asks you to donate "to help a nonprofit organization". "On the same period, Firefox marketshare was down 85%. When asked about her salary she stated "I learned that my pay was about an 80% discount to market. Meaning that competitive roles elsewhere were paying about 5 times as much. That's too big a discount to ask people and their families to commit…

Based on this I will start using Brave.. at least it's the devil you know

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The right to directly vote for a search engine with actual money is huge, as is the right to withdraw that vote. If Google went this route a few decades ago, their search product (and the Internet as a whole) would likely be in a much, much healthier place today

Also, Google would have much, much less money. What ad-supported financing removes, along with other things, is friction . You open google.com for the first time, and you can instantly use it. Also, Google started in 1998. I don't know whether you remember, but I do: paying for stuff over the internet was pretty hard by then. Paying across national borders was harder still. I wished to pay for several pieces of softw…

That was back when shareware told you to mail a check. I think "people who forgot" is a smaller set than "people who never knew." It's easy to forget a lot of this forum is people well into adulthood who weren't even alive in the '90s, and people who didn't get online until after the boom of new things built on the discounted ruins of the .com crash.
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