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Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by throwaway81523 »

DCKing wrote: post #20

Thanks Google. Think I’ll be buying this. I want as little to do with Google’s services as possible in my life, but they really deserve credits for making a modern usable smartphone that is reasonably open. There is just one single feature I will be buying this for - the 5 years of software updates. While good image processing is definitely a pro, all of these software you’re presenting features I really don’t give a…

> 5 years of support

I'll wait for the iFixit report on how difficult it is to replace the battery, before believing in a phone lasting that long. Also as usual for the pixels, there is no analog headphone jack. Still I can't believe I'm at least somewhat interested in a $600 phone since I'm not that much of a mobile user. I wonder if they will do a 6A version any time soon.

The main difference between the 6 and the 6 pro is the pro adds a telephoto camera, right?

Anandtech article is up: https://www.anandtech.com/show/16939/google-announces-pixel-...

I'm still somewhat leaning towards a 5a as my next phone, as it's already more than I want to spend.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

#362

Post by sekou »

One of the more compelling new features looks to be Live Translate built into the keyboard for 48 languages using Private Compute Core. I'd be curious about accuracy but I'm glad things moving forward in that space.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

#363

Post by 28921247 »

coryfklein wrote: post #359
lucasgonze wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're precisely missing the point. There is a new feature to better capture non-white skin tones. Those photos are to illustrate a product benefit. https://twitter.com/search?q=%23RealTone&src=typed_query&f=t...

> to better capture non-white skin tones The copy on the page itself seems to disagree with you > Portraits on Pixel represent the nuances of different skin tones for *all people* beautifully and authentically. (Emphasis mine) There does seem to be a discrepancy between the copy saying "all people" and the photos above that paragraph only including individuals with darker skin. Edit: I'm acknowledging that there are…

Unfortunately, since there are more than 7B people alive on earth and several more billion people who are dead, it would be quite difficult to feature literally all people in the copy. So they, like absolutely every product marketing copy that has ever featured people in the history of everything, included the people for which the actual product featured is targeting.

Aside from that, you can also infer from the negative view that the copy is implying that other phones do not represent the nuances of all people, which is the reason that they said it to begin with.

But you knew that already, didn’t you?

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

#364

Post by benlivengood »

eric_b wrote: post #89

This will get downvoted immediately but what the heck. I understand we need better representation for people of color in many places - but dang Google, not a single white guy on the Pixel 6 page [0]?? Dozens of photos of people, not one white male. Sort of jarring in the reverse if you ask me. [0] https://store.google.com/product/pixel_6?hl=en-US Edit: Because the common reply to mine seems to be "Well now you know h…

Practically, there are more races and nationalities than there are people in most advertisements. Once in a while white men (like me) will get left out in a fair process for choosing models.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

#365

Post by kaba0 »

coryfklein wrote: post #359
lucasgonze wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're precisely missing the point. There is a new feature to better capture non-white skin tones. Those photos are to illustrate a product benefit. https://twitter.com/search?q=%23RealTone&src=typed_query&f=t...

> to better capture non-white skin tones The copy on the page itself seems to disagree with you > Portraits on Pixel represent the nuances of different skin tones for *all people* beautifully and authentically. (Emphasis mine) There does seem to be a discrepancy between the copy saying "all people" and the photos above that paragraph only including individuals with darker skin. Edit: I'm acknowledging that there are…

Maybe because it already took great photos of white people?

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

#366

Post by kaba0 »

randomopining wrote: post #234
eric_b wrote: post #89

This will get downvoted immediately but what the heck. I understand we need better representation for people of color in many places - but dang Google, not a single white guy on the Pixel 6 page [0]?? Dozens of photos of people, not one white male. Sort of jarring in the reverse if you ask me. [0] https://store.google.com/product/pixel_6?hl=en-US Edit: Because the common reply to mine seems to be "Well now you know h…

Agree 100% and upvoted. But it's never enough for these types of people that want to push their narrative forward and over anything that stands in it's way. There's never an end to it until the collective just says "No". You can fight it with agree-and-amplify: "Well Google you included dark skinned people of west african descent, but none of east african. I won't buy your product." "Well google you only included asi…

Hyperbole is a logical fallacy, just for your information.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by heffer »

ac29 wrote: post #330
krzyk wrote: post #251

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People will never learn. You don't preorder Pixels, there are always better deals on Black Friday (literally in few weeks, just a week after Pixel start shipping). Never take preorders, especially with Pixels. (learned that hard with Pixel 3).

Pre-orders come with free Pixel Buds ($99), which if you care, is a nice bonus. With all the supply chain issues this past year, you might not even be able to buy one come Black Friday, much less at a discount or with a better freebie.

In Germany (and some other EU countries) pre-orders come with Bose Noise Cancelling Headphones 700 (A ~270 EUR value). Here in Canada not only is the phone more expensive, it also "only" comes with Pixel Buds which are a ~CAD 160 value after tax. The Bose headphones are also more expensive in Canada (as pretty much anything except gas and electricity) so they'd be an even better value here.

So I'll investigate if there are significant (to me) differences between the EU and Canada models and may just order it in Germany then.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

#368

Post by throwaway81523 »

kisamoto wrote: post #57

I think normally I'd look for the Pixel or the iPhone but my next purchase will be supporting FairPhone. When I think about how powerful I need my phone to be I don't need the best. I want something I can fix and update myself; something that's supported for more than a couple of years; something that is a little "better" for the planet. Does anybody use all of the new power of these incredible devices?

> Does anybody use all of the new power of these incredible devices?

The old joke about Microsoft Word driving an upgrade treadmill (no matter how fast your computer gets, Word will still take 30 seconds to boot) still applies, except it's to web browsers. Welcome to the future, where every tweet will include its own multi-megabyte, cpu hungry javascript app.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

#369

Post by 28921247 »

krzyk wrote: post #227
TheHypnotist wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Uh, there is a technical reason on demonstration as well. Don't try so hard to be that guy. "Take authentic, accurate portraits with Real Tone. Portraits on Pixel represent the nuances of different skin tones for all people beautifully and authentically."

But that's the point, they don't show all popular skin tones on those portraits.

Tide ads don’t show every single stain their product could remove. Beer ads don’t show every type of person with a working esophagus. They’re trying to get black people to buy Pixel phones. Let’s not overthink this.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

#370

Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

throwaway81523 wrote: post #361
DCKing wrote: post #20

Thanks Google. Think I’ll be buying this. I want as little to do with Google’s services as possible in my life, but they really deserve credits for making a modern usable smartphone that is reasonably open. There is just one single feature I will be buying this for - the 5 years of software updates. While good image processing is definitely a pro, all of these software you’re presenting features I really don’t give a…

> 5 years of support I'll wait for the iFixit report on how difficult it is to replace the battery, before believing in a phone lasting that long. Also as usual for the pixels, there is no analog headphone jack. Still I can't believe I'm at least somewhat interested in a $600 phone since I'm not that much of a mobile user. I wonder if they will do a 6A version any time soon. The main difference between the 6 and the…

My parents used several handed down iPhones for 6+ years each. I see no reason Google didn’t buy similarly good batteries.
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