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Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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post #46

Epic update. Crazy fast chips, 120hz, mini LED, more ports, 64 gigs of ram. It's literally everything you could want in a new MacBook Pro.

> It's literally everything you could want in a new MacBook Pro.

If it doesn't run VirtualBox then I can't use it to write code, so why does it even matter if it's faster?

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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I have been waiting on this announcement to buy a new Mac, but now that they are out, I don't think I will buy one. The prices are 2x a Macbook Air, but the utility for me doesn't match. If the 14" was closer to the previous 13" MBP price of $1500 I would be ordering one now, but I will be getting a Macbook Air instead. Note to Veterans: Apple gives a 10% Veterans discount on everything, including the refurbished sto…

I’d love to have it, but OSHA requires that we don’t work too much on the laptop. So, I would need a keyboard, a large screen and a mouse…

I must not be the right audience. But would a videographist really mount videos on his laptop?

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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post #35

These look positively insane . 120Hz HDR displays. Can be specced with up to 64 GB of RAM and a GPU that (apparently) matches a 3070. All the ports you could ever want and magsafe. I can't wait to get my hands on one. The notch doesn't bother me because it's literally more room on the screen. Laptops with the camera below the screen tend to have an uncomfortable angle that look sup your nose, and the design suggests…

>that (apparently) matches a 3070 I don't want to know the thermals on the laptop then. There is a reason for the 3070 being available with a minimum of 2 large fans and liquid cooling existing at all. How do you want to cool the same performance in a thin laptop? With passive airflow? For reference, this is what a laptop with the mobile (!) version of a 3070 looks like: https://gzhls.at/i/89/84/2618984-n1.jpg It's a…

I noticed the feet on this laptop seem a lot more prominent than previous iterations, and I'm sure the reason is to allow better airflow

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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post #96

This is literally a dream laptop. Improved in every area and lacking in none I can think of right now. And the price is crazy cheap for this performance if you ask me.

There is one area where the M1 is lacking - software support. There are still areas (eg Docker) that don't work well. It's definitely coming but it isn't here yet. If you work outside of those areas though, an Apple Arm CPU is amazing.

This is what I'm afraid of, too. Maybe things are working well and seamless, but the last thing I want to do is have to worry about being the first dev on my team using non-X86, and pushing Arm versions of Docker images all over the place or having to modify my Dockerfiles to use Arm versions instead of X86.

One of the reasons Mac was so nice was that everything worked the same locally as it did on Linux prod machines, whereas even today there are subtle bugs with naive Java or Python code that doesn't deal with paths or line endings correctly. On big multi-team projects, there are always some junior devs on Windows that just don't get it right.

This seems like another problem waiting to happen as more devs start using Arm, while the majority of developers and environments still use X86.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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post #212
post #35

These look positively insane . 120Hz HDR displays. Can be specced with up to 64 GB of RAM and a GPU that (apparently) matches a 3070. All the ports you could ever want and magsafe. I can't wait to get my hands on one. The notch doesn't bother me because it's literally more room on the screen. Laptops with the camera below the screen tend to have an uncomfortable angle that look sup your nose, and the design suggests…

I believe the 3070 uses a different die from the mobile 3070. The mobile and discrete parts have completely diverged so comparisons are meaningless. Laptop GPU performance is entirely a question of power and cooling.

In their charts, they showed it's about even (in performance, with much lower power consumption) with a laptop using a RTX 3080 (Mobile), which performs about as well as an RTX 3060-Ti / 3070 (Desktop). So that's pretty wild. More and more games getting playable on macOS too through native ports or emulation, so in theory you wouldn't need a gaming PC anymore. These numbers are for the M1 MAX though, which is a bit more expensive.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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post #35

These look positively insane . 120Hz HDR displays. Can be specced with up to 64 GB of RAM and a GPU that (apparently) matches a 3070. All the ports you could ever want and magsafe. I can't wait to get my hands on one. The notch doesn't bother me because it's literally more room on the screen. Laptops with the camera below the screen tend to have an uncomfortable angle that look sup your nose, and the design suggests…

Where did you see the "matches the 3070" thing? When I was (admittedly) skimming the two articles, the performance metrics were all about "performance per watt" which ... doesn't mean anything for actual performance in a "how long will this scene take to render?" sort of meaning.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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post #96

This is literally a dream laptop. Improved in every area and lacking in none I can think of right now. And the price is crazy cheap for this performance if you ask me.

Its not crazy cheap, a lot of people overvalue mobility when 90% of white collar work is done at home or in an office.

when you work on computers your whole life its nice to be able to get outside every once in a while

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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It's refreshing to see them actually listening to customer feedback, I don't think this ever would've happened in a Jobs/Ive world. Would they have released "pro" focused M1 chips/laptops? Absolutely. Would they have gone back on the (IMO) trainwreck that was touchbar and removing everything but 2x USB-C ports? No way.

ALSO, I'm actually kind of shocked they're supporting charging by both USB-C and magsafe. That is 100% the right thing to do and 100% the opposite of what Apple would normally do (namely lock you in to having to buy magsafe-3 and magsafe-3 only to charge the laptop).

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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post #323
post #202

I can live without HDMI, but it never made sense to me to put SD on the chopping block. In what sense was USB-C ever supposed to be an alternative to SD card slots? Edit: For clarity, read my reply to anamexis before responding to this.

HDMI makes more sense imo. You can hook up an SD card with adapter, connect the camera via USB-C or wireless. With Displays you aren’t as flexible.

Lots of people use SD cards as basically "permanent" extendable storage. And this is something that's much more necessary on lesser Macbooks because they come with such limited standard storage. A 256GB SD card is under $40, while adding that much storage to the SSD in the Macbook is hundreds.

HDMI is just one of the many display ports around, and the people using it are probably tied to a desk or something, so having a dongle for it is really no big deal.

I don't mind using my Anker for HDMI, but it sucks that I have to use it for SD.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

#370
post #39

The greatest improvement: no Touch Bar.

I love my touchbar.

I liked the concept when I first saw it but honestly it's more trouble than it's worth. On my old work laptop, it would sometimes bug out and stop registering touch. That's a problem when you are in the middle of a call and you need to adjust volume because one of the speakers is too loud or too quiet.

I also don't like how it's harder to operate than physical buttons. Too many times I hit the wrong spot on the bar and for example ended up putting my laptop to sleep instead of adjusting brightness. I've also tried to configure Ableton Live to do something useful with it (maybe mute/unmute tracks or control their volumes); but with little success.

Long story short: I'm happy to see it's gone.

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