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Wagies donating to millionaires is probably the funniest thing i can imagine.
I don't think it's funny, I think it's sad because most of it comes from the emotional exploitation of parasocial relationships. Something we used to scoff at in places like Asia, now even casual relationships are utterly commoditized and we taught a whole generation of young humans how that's the most normal thing in the world.
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Number of subs is often known, and the relative size of channels is known. Unless someone's going to be surprised that someone with double the viewers makes double the money, I doubt there will be any surprises.
There are a few outliers in this data. Some streamers with smaller viewer bases are making more because of exclusivity deals, so I imagine there will be a little bit of drama.
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Amazon has even more money to throw at studios than Epic, so they can just force themselves into it.
The problem isn't the product. I was going to compete with Steam at one point and we had objectively better systems and a better client. The problem was the critical mass issue - no users, no publishers, neither want to join without the other. Amazon will definitely get publishers but will users join? That's not a given.
> no users, no publishers, neither want to join without the other
> Amazon will definitely get publishers but will users join?
Well, the publishers will be there. If users have a reason to go there over Steam, they will. Amazon will lock in a few exclusives, people will start to come over. Who knows, maybe there will be some way to verifiably move your Steam library over to an Amazon account?
I don't think the bar to compete with Steam is as high as you're suggesting, but even if it is, if anybody was going to start listing companies that could conceivably do it, Amazon would probably be on the list.
Link to the leak: https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/83691438 Top 10k Streamers by Revenue: https://pastebin.com/LjmaPNam Contains the following data points: 'ad_share_gross', 'sub_share_gross', 'bits_share_gross', 'bits_developer_share_gross', 'bits_extension_share_gross', 'prime_sub_share_gross', 'bit_share_ad_gross', 'fuel_rev_gross', 'bb_rev_gross' (TTS donations, 3rd party revenue like OnlyFans, Patreon, Amazo…
Wagies donating to millionaires is probably the funniest thing i can imagine.
Hi ya'll, I have a question. My wife and I can't wrap our brains around the fact that payment info was leaked alongside source code . Any theories how this happened? Former pentester btw. I saw a lot of interesting things during my time, but I can't recall seeing a payment database next to a source code repo. Did their s3 bucket get popped or something? Even if their github enterprise got popped, that doesn't explain…
1) The payment-data were just artifacts left on some file-server or from a process, which was accessible from dev-space.
2) No real systems were accessed and everything, it's all from a bad backup-server or poorly managed worker-pool.
3) Multiple Persons got hacked.
4) Exit-Scam of one or more Workers who just had broad enough access for some reason.
5) Twitch's security is just that bad.
Some notable thing is, the payment-data are quite limited, there are no real private data it seems, and the git-history seems also be missing. It's not sure whether this is on purpose and whether more data will follow. But this overall hints so far that this at least was not a full deep hack.
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Am I the only one a bit disappointed by the gross earnings for the top 5 earners given how much the media has ben hyping the money made by e-gamers. For some reason I would have thought they would make more money over 2 years. Top earner was grossing $ 9.6M ($4.8M/yr), 10th was $2.9M($1.4M/yr), at 81 you drop below $1M (500k/yr) on twitch pre-tax revenue. After 81 you drop below the %1M over two years threshold. Actu…
A lot of those streamers are pretty open about how twitch revenue is a small portion of their earnings. Ninja was famously paid $1MM for an 8 hour ad of playing Apex at launch. I've had private conversation with large streaming friends that have all said independently that the amount they get paid from a short Raid Shadow Legends ad is huge. One said it's enough to buy a nice car, and if they hit their target downloa…
I'm not surprised by any of this. If you ever did any digging in to how much advertising pays, ran numbers on twitch subs, etc, these numbers match that quite closely.
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It would be good to have a streaming service where simps could be called out as such.
Real question - why does it matter to you? If that's how people want to spend their time and money, and it makes them feel good, even if they look foolish, what does it matter to you? I'm really bad at woodworking, but I do it a lot, and I've spent a crap load of money on it. Does that matter at all to anyone else in the world?
Simping is more like an alcohol consumption - damaging and the first step is acknowledging a problem exists, often through an intervention.
This is somewhat hilarious. Just 5 days ago I was complaining about Twitch’s new "Only verified users" setting which requires me to give them my phone number. One of the reasons I said I’ll not do that was "hacks, leaks". And now this. Sure, I’ll give you my phone number to add TOTP (Why even?) after I’ve just been shown how secure that data is.
From what I can see their 2FA is not inhouse. They're using twilio's Authy (first time I've heard of it, honestly) so maybe the phone numbers are not in the leak.
Personally I'm thinking this is decent PR for twitch since the market is still small and the payouts can be relatively high even in the middle tier.
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The leak contains much more than this FYI, there's a hundred gigabytes of code and resources from dozens of repositories. Looks like someone dumped everything on their github enterprise. I wonder if this'll lead to software engineers in big companies having more restricted access to code?
> I wonder if this'll lead to software engineers in big companies having more restricted access to code? I don't think that Twitch has closed source code because they want to keep code private. It's probably more a matter of don't want to show commit message in case there are some bad words inside it. And don't want to show the world in case their source code look bad. Twitch without its code source can't work yeah,…