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Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by dexterdog » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 9:36 PM UTC

edge17 wrote: post #165

xutopia wrote: post #48

To be fair... his move to Spotify coincided with him spewing more and more anti-vax and anti-mask drivel that I don't have any interest in listening to.

If anyone wants a datapoint, I stop listening to podcasts once they go to Spotify. I use Overcast, and generally don't have the wherewithal to chase content. I'm guessing there are more like me. I was an infrequent listener to Joe Rogan, but now I am not a listener at all (because it moved to Spotify). Also, there seems to be a lot of judgement of the kind of person Joe Rogan is (conspiracy, etc) in the comments. I h…

I'm the same way. I used to listen to Stern on the radio for my morning drive but never considered for a second going satellite when he did. There were plenty of options.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by goostavos » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 9:37 PM UTC

kaibee wrote: post #278

paulpauper wrote: post #262

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the health experts a year ago said vaccines would make this go away, and before that they predicted that masks and social distancing would flatten the curve. With the exception of a few countries, none of that happened. At this ponit, I don't think anyone knows anything. due to rampant downvoting, I will respond to individual replies here: "This worked perfectly basically anywhere people actually complied. " Italy ha…

> they predicted that masks and social distancing would flatten the curve. This worked perfectly basically anywhere people actually complied.

https://www.covidchartsquiz.com/

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by sk2020 » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 9:37 PM UTC

devwastaken wrote: post #252

That's fine. An uneducated guy bringing on other uneducated guys that talk about something as if they're experts. Joe is an "average dude" who loves his disinformation and nodding his head to whatever BS someone says. People like words, personalities, hand waving. That's not where truth comes from. Truth is a hard fought battle that doesn't come to you in a podcast. It comes in written words, proofs, and is filled wi…

> That's fine. An uneducated guy bringing on other uneducated guys that talk about something as if they're experts.

I’m not sure that’s distinct from the internet commentariat here or elsewhere.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by nabla9 » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 9:37 PM UTC

timr wrote: post #146

xutopia wrote: post #48

To be fair... his move to Spotify coincided with him spewing more and more anti-vax and anti-mask drivel that I don't have any interest in listening to.

> his move to Spotify coincided with him spewing more and more anti-vax and anti-mask drivel that I don't have any interest in listening to I listen to his show sometimes, and while I've heard him have guests on from all sides of these issues, at no point have I heard him be anything less than a thoughtful, critical interviewer. If that's "drivel", we need more drivel. I'll certainly take it over everything I see on…

> I heard him be anything less than a thoughtful, critical interviewer.

He is the least critical interviewer you can imagine. Being uncritical and hyped up is his trademark. He is Mr. Softball to the extent he is made of fun for it.

He is not thoughtful. He has talent of speaking endlessly and keeping it going endlessly.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by vernie » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 9:37 PM UTC

supperburg wrote: post #333

arodgers_la wrote: post #188

Comedian Bill Burr said it best: "I'm not gonna sit here with no medical degree, listening to you with no medical degree, with an American flag behind you smoking a cigar acting like we know what's up better than the CDC." [0] That quote is Joe Rogan's shtick in a nutshell. [0] https://youtube.com/watch?v=tSKVXl-WnrA&t=5m20s

Says people who don’t watch joe rogan. Joe rogan has two kinds of guests: experts/scientists and show biz people. The former are why I watch the podcast. And I think it’s important because it gives a platform to people are being ignored by the mainstream. Take for example Paul Saladino. Watch that podcast and tell me it’s pseudo science. You can’t because he’s meticulously citing a paper and bringing up that paper to…

And we can't forget about Rogan's thought-provoking segment with the DN guy.

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Post by spideymans » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 9:38 PM UTC

Mountain_Skies wrote: post #272

knorker wrote: post #171

No wonder. Spotify is the most broken piece of shit on the app stores by far. Hey, let me download these so i can listen on the plane. Oh, the app just hangs on startup when you're in airplane mode. Well that's pointless. And on and on. It's a wonder anyone even can listen if they wanted to. Sorry, this comment is probably not HN material, but every time I use Spotify it makes me angry from how it just doesn't work.

Spotify has invested heavily in podcasts, not just Joe Rogan but a whole range of them at high costs. It baffles me that they would spend so much money on content and not invest in app development and design. Some businesses seem to have a major hate boner against paying for an appropriate number of high quality developers and designers. It's very penny proud and pound foolish.

I'm disappointed that Spotify in particular is going through this. They had a best-in-class user experience just a few short years ago.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by ErikVandeWater » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 9:38 PM UTC

arodgers_la wrote: post #188

Comedian Bill Burr said it best: "I'm not gonna sit here with no medical degree, listening to you with no medical degree, with an American flag behind you smoking a cigar acting like we know what's up better than the CDC." [0] That quote is Joe Rogan's shtick in a nutshell. [0] https://youtube.com/watch?v=tSKVXl-WnrA&t=5m20s

The CDC has been an embarrassment. No emphasis on protecting the most vulnerable.

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Post by ds206 » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 9:38 PM UTC

aaronbrethorst wrote: post #337

nradov wrote: post #322

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you give a monkey a machine gun, and the monkey shoots someone, we don't blame the monkey. Society has always had court jesters who poke fun at authority. If you take health and epidemiology advice from a comedian then that's on you.

If you take health and epidemiology advice from a comedian then that's on you And every person you infect.

And every person you don't infect?

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Post by gjs278 » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 9:38 PM UTC

arcticfox wrote: post #271

complianceowl wrote: post #123

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All of us are right and wrong to varying degrees. I don't think Joe Rogan cares much for people that stop listening because he doesn't reinforce their politics. He never has. He's also spoken about the whole point of him having FU money is that he is able to say whatever he wants and not care about the blowback. I'm not anti-vax, but ultimately, my body, my choice. People who are risk averse are free to self-quaranti…

> Us, the unvaccinated, are happy to live freely and face any associated risks - just like people who decide to ride motorcycles, play combat sports, or eat homegrown food. I think you've got the wrong analogies going there. You, the unvaccinated, are principally putting yourselves at risk but you are also , and more importantly, putting others at increased risk of transmission from yourself. Adjusting your content f…

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Post by labster » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 9:39 PM UTC

nradov wrote: post #232

suzzer99 wrote: post #219

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This. I just wish he'd take his enormous reach a little more seriously when he entertains quack pseudoscience as if it's an equally valid POV to real peer-reviewed science.

You're asking a professional comedian to be more serious? Are you actually serious or is that a joke?

Comedy is a profession. Professionals should take their job seriously. Just because the product is fun and games doesn’t mean social responsibility ends.