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Actual impostors don't get impostor syndrome

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Re: Actual impostors don't get impostor syndrome

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A lot of the discussion here is treating impostor syndrome and qualifications as binary: You're either qualified or not. And your evaluation of your skills is either above your actual skills or not. But it's more nuanced than that. I'm a Principal Engineer at a FAAMNG company. I have impostor syndrome all the time. Why? Because I measure myself against 1) role models that are ahead of me in many ways - I've always do…

A lot of this resonates with me, and in particular: > but I don't consider them difficult (how could they be, if I am good at them) I've struggled with this over the years. As a kid, once something clicked it felt like you had leveled up in some way, and now had a new skill. As an adult, I have a hard time not looking at everything I'm capable of and thinking "it's so simple, it obviously just works like this ". It's…

> As an adult, I have a hard time not looking at everything I'm capable of and thinking "it's so simple, it obviously just works like this".

The way you fix this perception is teach the skill to someone with zero foundational knowledge of the skill’s background requirements. Or write if there is no person around. There is always documentation going begging.

IMHO, one of the biggest oversights I see in the industry today is the lack of inward-facing technical writer and editor teams, sitting alongside pair programmers and/or agile stand ups. Skills transmission works through a highly opaque diffusion membrane of tribal knowledge (reaching its peak form in StackExchange), and synchronous, people-intensive discussions, where insight is rarely if ever captured and memorialized.

Powerful, effective documentation prepared by professional programmers with professional communications skills asynchronously transmits insight and not just information. We have incredible tooling now, but ironically do not staff them.

One way to calibrate your imposter syndrome is write lots of documentation. In it, make sure you call out references for further to skill stacks you consider prerequisites lest you dilute your focus and the the prose becomes too unwieldy. And call out references to what you have used to learn meta information and abstractions beyond the current documentation’s focused skill band. If that list will routinely take an average practitioner at a particular skill level more than a year to absorb, then you have a fair baseline. Now update the documentation each time someone asks for clarification on a point in it. If there are lots of readers and few questions, then you possibly have a reasonable grasp of the material.

Re: Actual impostors don't get impostor syndrome

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Why waste time say lot word when few do trick? For anyone with even a passing knowledge of symbolic logic, what you provided is clear. But the explanation wouldn't be required for those people who are going to be familiar with that Fallacy anyway. It's for those who aren't aware of it. In that case, the symbolic version is of no help and the longer verbal explanation is important.

What about starting with a TL;DR for those who know symbols, then the detailed explanation? But oh no, I think the edit window has closed for @ARandomerDude

There's no reason to use symbolic logic on a mixed-audience webboard, it's just a flex.

Re: Actual impostors don't get impostor syndrome

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I think I agree with your description. I'm currently sitting on three job offers - I originally thought it would be easy to choose, but I find myself absolutely paralyzed right now with an inability to make a decision on any of them because I feel as though I will be expected to know more than I think I know, or to perform at a level beyond what I feel comfortable performing at. I've had a lot of great feedback from…

1. Don't move into management because of any external pressure because you "ought to". Also don't do it just because you are tired of writing code. Do it when you feel like you have more to offer by building and leading teams and delivering through your people than with your individual delivery. Ideally, get a chance to try it on an interim basis at a company you already have trust in. There is a LOT of stuff about m…

I wanted to thank you for your advice and the time you took out of your day to respond with such a thoughtful reply. I really took it into account with my decision making. Just today, I decided to take a more coding-oriented position and turned down the management roles.

I'm saving your reply into a Word doc so that I can use it going forward. What stood out specifically was your first sentence - I'm not tired of writing code and still feel more passionate about developing rather than managing. It pays less but I feel as though I will be happier in the end.

In any case, I wanted to thank you kind stranger, for your words!

Re: Actual impostors don't get impostor syndrome

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I think I agree with your description. I'm currently sitting on three job offers - I originally thought it would be easy to choose, but I find myself absolutely paralyzed right now with an inability to make a decision on any of them because I feel as though I will be expected to know more than I think I know, or to perform at a level beyond what I feel comfortable performing at. I've had a lot of great feedback from…

Care less, stop comparing yourself. And read this: https://stepsandleaps.wordpress.com/2017/10/17/feynmans-brea...

This was actually really helpful and a fun read on my favorite physicist! I appreciate your response, this helped me come to a decision!

Re: Actual impostors don't get impostor syndrome

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I'm a bit tired of hearing about imposter syndrome, honestly. It's become trendy to claim you have it, and I feel like the actual number of people suffering from it is much smaller than the self-diagnosed sample.

There has always been something extremely off putting about this term, "imposter syndrome" and I haven't been able to articulate it until now. IMO it is a defense mechanism (as is having unchallenged confidence). Claiming you have imposter syndrome is a way people with a 'fixed mindset' to avoid confronting harsh realities. Whenever they make a mistake or lack knowledge in something, their whole identity of being an…

yes, it is the people who have unchallenged confidence who experience imposter syndrome, not the people who have work hard and encounter powerful "experts" pretending to know what they are talking about.

and who cares if your work environment or your boss or is bad. you either worked hard enough or you didn't. if it were me, i would have simply worked hard enough to overcome such challenges

Re: Actual impostors don't get impostor syndrome

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Or Zebras crossing

At zebra crossings, watch out for zebras crossing? But how are zebras on topic? Am I missing something

Ask yourself, if philosophers go on strike, who will it inconvenience?

Re: Actual impostors don't get impostor syndrome

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A lot of this resonates with me, and in particular: > but I don't consider them difficult (how could they be, if I am good at them) I've struggled with this over the years. As a kid, once something clicked it felt like you had leveled up in some way, and now had a new skill. As an adult, I have a hard time not looking at everything I'm capable of and thinking "it's so simple, it obviously just works like this ". It's…

> As an adult, I have a hard time not looking at everything I'm capable of and thinking "it's so simple, it obviously just works like this". The way you fix this perception is teach the skill to someone with zero foundational knowledge of the skill’s background requirements. Or write if there is no person around. There is always documentation going begging. IMHO, one of the biggest oversights I see in the industry to…

It's interesting you say this, because I have probably written more documentation in the last two years than I did the first eight years that had made up my career prior to that. The team I'm with now, we've been building it with a focus on documentation (and testing) that I didn't appreciate was possible prior.

We've also been pushing hard to get a full time technical writer, someone who specifically doesn't get screwed three months into the job with "Ok, you write docs, AND do a little coding work on the side in your down time". No, we've clearly got the workload necessary for a full time writer, let's bring someone on board and really let them become that core differentiator.

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