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Were the bulk of these programmers solving problems with engineering and logical reasoning as they might today?
Yes. More so.
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#362If you haven't read the state of California's claims here you should. It's the result of a two year investigation and the claims are.. shocking. I want to make a point about "culture fit". "Culture fit" in a company typically comes down to "we like you" and the reason why people like other people is that they are like them. Similar age, background, whatever. It's why Stanford grads probably like other Stanford grads.…
> I want to make a point about "culture fit" "culture fit" is one of the biggest causes of workplace discrimination and I still see it pushed in 'hiring training' as perfectly valid criteria. Things I've seen teams consider "culture" - will the candidate go to our weekly study session at the micro-brewery? - will the candidate stay after work to play multi-player games with us? - is the candidate entertained by all t…
Culture fit doesn't have to stretch that far - it does not need to be pervasive and it does not need to be toxic.
We had a guy from Gaza in our office - he complained about informal emails sent to invite people for drinks because it was sinful, he complained about a manikin that got dressed up at special occasions because it was immodest.
I don't know what lines to draw here - but be careful when playing with double-edged swords.
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20 years ago i had to show people in a cs course how to turn on their computer. they were only there because of the dotcom bubble. Brogrammers were a thing back then, and were problematic even then.
My mistake, rounding error. 15-17 years ago, my CS courses after the bubble burst were rather different. CS in high school even during the dot-com bubble, though... NOT popular.
Man. I went to high school in the late 90s, and we didn't even have a CS course. We did have a "programming" class, and it was taught using Pascal. It wasn't a required class, and only the "nerds" (such as myself) took it. And my high school was a brand-new school that was branded as a "tech magnet" school, in a relatively well-off area.
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Cyborg woman? You mean the woman with an arm prosthetic? Come on.
Ah yeah, my bad, just call it a prosthetic and it's totally period-appropriate.
Does calling her a "cyborg women" automatically mean it isn't period-appropriate? My 2 minutes of research seems to indicate that there is nothing anachronistic about the tech[1].
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Were the bulk of these programmers solving problems with engineering and logical reasoning as they might today?
Yes. More so.
That doesn't align with most accounts of how computing was performed in the 50's and 60's.
For instance, Knuth was seen as an anomaly because he would operate the keypunch as fast as the secretaries and would keypunch his own programs.
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She didn't cheat the game review system.
I didn't say she did. Hate mobs can attack people for things that aren't true, happens all the time. There is a reason why we don't use hate mobs in the justice system. For example, lets say a twitter mob attacks a man for something he didn't do. Is that misandry? No, they did it thinking he actually did it.
I don't see what the big deal is that you keep bringing.
Why does it matter so much to you whether or not 60%, or 59% of the people engaging in the harassment were sexist?
It is still bad, regardless if we get the literal exact percentage correctly of precisely how sexist each individual was.
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#367Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I want to make a point about "culture fit" "culture fit" is one of the biggest causes of workplace discrimination and I still see it pushed in 'hiring training' as perfectly valid criteria. Things I've seen teams consider "culture" - will the candidate go to our weekly study session at the micro-brewery? - will the candidate stay after work to play multi-player games with us? - is the candidate entertained by all t…
So if I'm hiring someone at what point am I allowed to use my own personal discretion? Am I allowed to dislike someone? Am I allowed to say I don't like them so please don't hire them?
Why don't you like them _and_ which of those reasons will affect their job performance?
Do they dismiss any approaches besides their own? Do they think mentoring is a waste of time? Do they think that their code is so obvious that there's no point in documenting? Do they think their code is so perfect that unit tests are unnecessary? These are good reasons to dislike someone and not hire them.
Do you dislike them because they seem kind of boring? Get over yourself.
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I think it’s just important for everyone to recognize the new paradigm: make no comments about your coworkers whatsoever, do not complement, do not ask about their personal life, do not talk about politics, because the only safe thing to do is to be as robotic as possible.
It's generally enough to just not be an asshole. But if that's too difficult to you, sure.
Seems to be too difficult for you.
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> literally dry humping interns and shoving their ass into faces statements like this are why i have no interest in investigating allegations of sexism because neither of these things are sexist. is your starting point that we're supposed to assume this is only being done to women? assuming women are being treated differently is a poor premise for proving women are being treated differently. or are you implying that…
You're the first person to mention 'sexism' in this comment chain. Why is an investigation predicated on sexism? Why is sexual harassment not sufficient to warrant an investigation?
> You're the first person to mention 'sexism' in this comment chain. Why is an investigation predicated on sexism?
...i actually have no idea. i was gonna say maybe i read it in another comment, but i dont see any other comment talking about sexism.
i dont know what im on about. sorry folks!
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I think most folks are unaware, really. What's more, here in BC the NDP (left-leaning labour party) stripped Tech Workers of the majority of their labour rights. Not even meal breaks were saved. https://www.itworldcanada.com/article/employment-standards-a...
Interestingly, that party and the people in charge of the "tech policy" are all Indians aren't they? [0][1] It makes sense they would pitch offshoring and low cost for programming since they saw it working for their country. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagmeet_Singh [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navdeep_Bains
> Singh was born on January 2, 1979, in Scarborough district of Toronto, Ontario
> Bains was born in Toronto, Ontario on June 16, 1977