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Wide temperature (-40C to +85C) DIMM and SSDs are available.. Companies like ATP and Apacer carry them. Intel's Xeon D series are meant for wide temps.
-40C is very close to 0F (-32C) claimed above. Update: -40F is -40C, oops, my bad, I don’t understand Fahrenheit. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Starlink dishes go into “thermal shutdown” once they hit 122° Fahrenheit
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Re: Starlink dishes go into “thermal shutdown” once they hit 122° Fahrenheit
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And, fwiw, that's exactly what SpaceX did to make Dishy tolerant of low temperatures (and to help it clear snow/ice from the dish). There's just no equivalent solution for high temperatures.
I used to think it was just a matter of product cost to do active cooling... really the problem isn't the temperature it's the dew point! Which I guess could probably be solved with enough hardware, planning, and cost as well... but a ridiculous amount compared to adding an electric heater for the opposite problem. Come to think of it does anyone know of a consumer device that utilized active cooling (as in would get…
Re: Starlink dishes go into “thermal shutdown” once they hit 122° Fahrenheit
#363Re: Starlink dishes go into “thermal shutdown” once they hit 122° Fahrenheit
#364Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wide temperature (-40C to +85C) DIMM and SSDs are available.. Companies like ATP and Apacer carry them. Intel's Xeon D series are meant for wide temps.
-40C is very close to 0F (-32C) claimed above. Update: -40F is -40C, oops, my bad, I don’t understand Fahrenheit. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Re: Starlink dishes go into “thermal shutdown” once they hit 122° Fahrenheit
#365Several posters on r/Starlink report that they had seen their dishes at more than 122F, when this topic came up a few days ago. It's entirely possible that this story (and 122 hn comments so far) is about a dish with a loose heatsink, and not a product that always shuts down at 122F.
I have Starlink and I'm in Pahrump, NV. We hit 111F today and my dishy is in direct sunlight on the ground so it was easily over 120F. Hell, my direct sunlight thermometer showed over 130F! Didn't go into thermal shutdown, no disruptions in service, and I didn't have to water it either.
Hot summer is like 3-4 months over there, so about 100 very-hot-cold cycles per year.
Let’s see if it withstands that.
Re: Starlink dishes go into “thermal shutdown” once they hit 122° Fahrenheit
#366Starlink is in beta. The entire purpose of the beta is to find stuff like this. They found something, and I'm sure that the next iteration of this before it goes to mass market will account for it. You're just seeing the system work.
This is mainly due to how they are targeting RDOF areas to appease the government from winning all that money. Heat is one thing, but freezing temperatures are also very difficult to deal with. A deicer is common on high-end antennas to melt ice off in subzero temperatures.
I would be surprised if SpaceX changes the design at this point. To manufacture it antennas in the quantities that they need, they would have had to order a lot of the parts 6 to 9 months ahead of time in large quantities, especially given that they lose money on the terminal cost currently.
Re: Starlink dishes go into “thermal shutdown” once they hit 122° Fahrenheit
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If your engineering team had to wait for a product failure to realize an item that's going to be outdoors in the sun is going to get hot, what on earth else are they missing?
There is an interesting article about this. https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/06/starl... > Officially, SpaceX has said that "Dishy McFlatface" is certified to operate from 22° below zero up to 104° Fahrenheit. Temperatures reached about 120° yesterday in Martin's town of Topock, > the Starlink app provided an error message saying, "Offline: Thermal shutdown." The dish "overheated" and "Starlink wil…
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Sorry HW engineer here and I strongly disagree. You don’t ship hardware like this. 122F is only 50C. Most components can handle 85C so shutting down at 50C means the thermal rise is >35C. This is simply poor design.
Directv dishes are only rated for 140F or 60C[0]. Pretty close, but it clearly makes a difference in Arizona. 0: https://www.att.com/support/smallbusiness/article/smb-direct... .
Re: Starlink dishes go into “thermal shutdown” once they hit 122° Fahrenheit
#369Starlink is in beta. The entire purpose of the beta is to find stuff like this. They found something, and I'm sure that the next iteration of this before it goes to mass market will account for it. You're just seeing the system work.
The link is mostly a honeypot for Elon Musk haters. I wonder if they have bothered looking at the operating temperatures of other satellite Internet dishes? A simple search will net you heating and cooling devices for satellite dishes. If you face more extreme temperatures, you need only go buy a heating and cooling unit. http://www.dishcamo.com/dish_heater.htm
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They didn’t need that size, they could have gotten by fine with a smaller size just like every other car company.
This is just the wrong angle to look at this. The big screen was one of the features that was talked about the most. It was genius marketing, and also part of why the car felt like the future.