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Re: “Please don't add any of my stuff to this project”

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Post by apple4ever » Mon, Jun 21, 2021, 6:19 AM UTC

dwild wrote: post #330

gotts wrote: post #79

His About page https://frenck.dev/about/ looks a bit weird after I read that GitHub thread > I like to give back my knowledge and time to the open source community.

How so? Seems like he does give back his knowledge and time to the open source community. Much more than me I can tell you, and probably more than many of people in thread. What he don't like is people expecting support from him in ways that differ his initial distribution methods, which makes sense when time is a limited ressource and he clearly has expectations on how he want to spend it.

Except literally the Nix folks were making suggestions to ensure there would be no expectations go support.

Re: “Please don't add any of my stuff to this project”

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Post by apple4ever » Mon, Jun 21, 2021, 6:24 AM UTC

jsmith45 wrote: post #285

rubatuga wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think he’s so focused on time management (from his about page), that he is catastrophizing about the future. He also clearly wants the fame from having a library in Home Automation, but doesn’t want to provide any support.

He is a paid Home Assistant core developer. (Hired by the company the project's founder created to generate sustainable income for developing the project by offering optional value-add services). This library was written specifically to be used in Home Assistant, as per project policy the code that interfaces with devices needs to live in a separate python package. So there is no real fame to be had from this particu…

> If the nix folks could convince him that the package would never contain modified code (no no untested/unsupportable modifications), and further that the home-assistant package in nix would always use exactly the version specified upstream (so no version mismatch concerns), he would likely be less opposed.

They did everything possible to try to convince him but he had his ears closed and refused to listen.

> Unfortunately the latter is very much not true right now.

Based on the above, it is very much true.

Re: “Please don't add any of my stuff to this project”

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Post by fomine3 » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 8:17 AM UTC

soraminazuki wrote: post #194

dwelch wrote: post #52

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I agree. This is kind of bizarre behavior from someone who is such an important contributor to Home Assistant, a large scale open source platform. I can’t imagine most of the leaders in Home Assistant would share this attitude, but maybe I’m wrong.

Unfortunately, the founder of Home Assistant has acted similarly too. When NixOS maintainers raised concerns, he accused them of having "no intention to contribute anything positively." This was despite NixOS maintainers' best efforts to engage in a civil discussion. To make matters worse, he even used the fact that the NixOS discussion was temporarily locked down due to high tensions and accused NixOS maintainers of…

It's sad to know that Home Assistant is such a project. I should consider alternatives. Partially I can grasp them, but the attitude in reply is really looks bad.