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Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by neonological »

slumpt_ wrote: post #301
dang wrote: post #210

The submitted title was "Y Combinator kicks out Paul Biggar over a tweet". That is inaccurate, so in keeping with the HN guidelines (" Please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize. " https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html ), I've replaced the title with the tweet text. That's the standard thing we do with titles, when people post Twitter links. Much as I'd love to,…

“petty drama” speaks volumes. Edit:Please, downvote. Just reinforces my point. What is wrong with this community, jfc

Any post that challenges dang will likely get voted down. This is normal given his position and it's the price of admission (see my other reply to his post). People also rarely vote on how substantive your post is but on whether they agree with it or not. It's not in the spirit of HN to do this but you really can't control human behavior and people do this without being fully aware of it.

Due to how human voting behavior sort of deviates from the spirit of HN, it's a good excuse to have some people moderate the site as having an emotional mob control everything could have the entire site turn into reddit. The problem is the people moderating the site are also human and also victims of their own biases and business interests so you get hella sketchy stuff like this pinned post.

Still it's sorta good that this post wasn't outright deleted.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by Aeolun »

natch wrote: post #284
random314 wrote: post #255

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The yc founders commentary is highly unreliable. On Twitter he claimed that joe Biden declared that all adults are eligible for a vaccine in March. Hence he didn't skip the line. This is patently false. He has a different story here. I would take his claims with a huge helping of salt. All that we know is that he got vaccinated in March ahead of federal guidelines. Did he wait to obtain vaccines left over at the end…

I believe what are being thought of and judged by some (not you necessarily) as hard rules are actually just guidelines as you mentioned. And individual sites are encouraged to use their discretion in giving out available doses, when extra doses are available, to people who would otherwise not fit the guidelines. Because having doses go to waste is not desirable. So, people passing judgement may be being overly harsh…

It’s perfectly acceptable to do this thing (in theory), but if stories about it turn into he said/she said there is part of the context we are missing.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by chris_wot »

ping_pong wrote: post #342
dfabulich wrote: post #300

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got vaccinated at one of these West Oakland "first come, first serve" vaccination sites back in March. They were administering J&J vaccines (which do not thaw) with no residency check, and not even a poster saying "please don't line up unless you live in this neighborhood." No statement of intent at all. Others standing in line asked coordinators walking the line, "Am I eligible here?" and the coordinators responde…

Gotta love the rationalization. In March there was a lot of issues with supply of vaccines and the program was intended to specifically target underprivileged people because COVID is drastically affecting them more than people. But you said to yourself, fuck their rules, I found a news article that justifies me jumping the line. So you hacked the system and jumped the line and got yourself vaccinated ahead of someone…

No offence intended by the following question, but if it’s not made clear who the vaccines are intended for, how can it be “hacking the system”? Hacking the system implies you know the intent but you ignore it and used the system in a way it was not designed.

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Post by hn_throwaway_99 »

Permit wrote: post #134
dasickis wrote: post #120

I'm the person this original tweet was about. None of you know any of the internal details but what I can state is that Paul has no idea what he's talking about and later admits to the fact I wasn't lying. Here's the order of events: 1. I went to a neighborhood clinic in Oakland, CA that's literally next door to my house, I can see the church from my window. Paul lives in NYC which is on the opposite end of the count…

Your account may very well be biased but it astonishes me how many HN commenters are willing to chime in while knowing next to nothing about what actually took place. I know next to nothing and as such would typically hesitate to comment. Others appear to know next to nothing and appear very interested in sharing their opinions here, and I don’t quite understand why...

I wish I could donate all of my karma as votes for this comment. I'm really astonished at how the dynamics of internet forums make so many feel like they must immediately pick a side, even when there is such little information and even when getting just a single side of the story.

The worst part about this is that when more information does come to light, it's so rare to see an "oh wow, I really shouldn't have jumped to conclusions" apology. Instead, a lot of the time you see folks dig their heels in more, lest they actually have to admit they were wrong.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by dasickis »

dasickis wrote: post #120

I'm the person this original tweet was about. None of you know any of the internal details but what I can state is that Paul has no idea what he's talking about and later admits to the fact I wasn't lying. Here's the order of events: 1. I went to a neighborhood clinic in Oakland, CA that's literally next door to my house, I can see the church from my window. Paul lives in NYC which is on the opposite end of the count…

Since most of these self-righteous comments below still have no idea what they're talking about. The site was for overflow of vaccines that were going unused & being thrown out. The Oakland Coliseum is one of these mega-sites. So many of you don't understand the on-the-ground realities of the communities you're speaking of where I live. I see my neighbors and when FEMA is running these sites they know their goals. It's not unethical to follow the guidelines and get jabbed. Also the line was most exclusively healthy adults coming in from all around California. Clearly I didn't invite 800 people myself from a deleted post on an internal forum.

Also on the Monday before the FEMA agents were telling me they had less people than vaccines, Tuesday they barely covered the people with vaccines, and Wednesday (when I got it) onwards they had slightly more demand when they asked people to tell their friends.

It's up to governments to enforce rules around their clinics instead of moral crusaders that live across the country with no on-the-ground experience to tweet an internal post to generate outrage.

Here are articles around why there was so few people getting vaccinated in our area and why FEMA requested us ask our friends to show up.

"COVID-19 Vaccination Hesitancy in the United States: A Rapid National Assessment " - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7778842/

"Addressing Justified Vaccine Hesitancy in the Black Community " - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8009077/

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

verelo wrote: post #351
dang wrote: post #210

The submitted title was "Y Combinator kicks out Paul Biggar over a tweet". That is inaccurate, so in keeping with the HN guidelines (" Please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize. " https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html ), I've replaced the title with the tweet text. That's the standard thing we do with titles, when people post Twitter links. Much as I'd love to,…

Literally you’re the top comment, and it’s not a short one, and it expresses personal thoughts. Good job doing less not more.

I thought it was perfectly reasonable. "Less" doesn't mean "zero", and in the normal case this story would be downweighted way off the front page.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by duckfang »

dang wrote: post #210

The submitted title was "Y Combinator kicks out Paul Biggar over a tweet". That is inaccurate, so in keeping with the HN guidelines (" Please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize. " https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html ), I've replaced the title with the tweet text. That's the standard thing we do with titles, when people post Twitter links. Much as I'd love to,…

Its not the first time you've been caught in a lie, dang.

But folks, this is the secret hackernews site, called BookFace. This is the site that the event happened. Its also a nice site to conspire with other YC companies and YC itself as a cohesive market 'strategy'.

https://bookface.ycombinator.com/

And according to sam altman (sama), https://twitter.com/sama/status/631874706543480832 . Fun to read through here.. "invaluable resource in helping us work through problems and tap the YC network for advice"...

Other secrets that HN/dang/pg don't want you to know is that founders can see each other with special flairs here. Of course, conspiring on BookFace also helps too.

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Post by rrauenza »

dang wrote: post #210

The submitted title was "Y Combinator kicks out Paul Biggar over a tweet". That is inaccurate, so in keeping with the HN guidelines (" Please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize. " https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html ), I've replaced the title with the tweet text. That's the standard thing we do with titles, when people post Twitter links. Much as I'd love to,…

My main confusion from the title was trying to figure out who "Lol" was and why "Lol" got kicked out.

Took me a few minutes to realize it was LOL.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by jonny_eh »

cavisne wrote: post #278
walrus01 wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 2. I asked them about eligibility and told them I don't clear CA guidelines. They told me it's first come, first served with an ID showing I am 18+. There are a number of 'special' vaccination sites in the USA which are indeed vaccinating first come, first served people without going through any special qualifications/eligibility check. For instance FEMA was, and still is, running a mass vaccination site in Yakima,…

This was actually fake news, Yakima fema site had the same eligibility as elsewhere in the state https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/washingtoni... A good example of how confusing and micro managed the eligibility charade was.

Information you think is wrong isn’t “fake news”. Please don’t be so hyperbolic. It’s akin to calling someone a liar.
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