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I’ve had the same supper for 10 years

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Re: I’ve had the same supper for 10 years

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We shall not cease from exploration And the end of all our exploring Will be to arrive where we started And know the place for the first time. -- T.S.Eliot

Die Ball ist rund. Der Spiel dauert 90 Minuten. So ist alles klar. Alles anderes ist Theorie. -- Sepp Herberger

Those are the facts ... here comes the manual:

Das Runde muss ins Eckige.

Re: I’ve had the same supper for 10 years

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"This valley is cut in the shape of my heart". I've known farmers like him, bachelors who are mild mannered and love their lives and the extended family that comes with living an entire life in one valley. He maybe goes to Sunday service for socialization and the local pub to watch the game, and as long as his sheep are healthy and the sky does what it promises (because he knows the day before always if it will rain)…

One of the reasons that this is quite beautiful is that it portrays the ideal of having just enough, living simply, and being grateful. There is something also stoic about the character described. I imagine the farmer you're telling us about doesn't want attention, material possessions, or any kind of excess at all. This person is happy to build something slowly over time, in small increments. They're happy with what…

This man exemplifies the saying

A rich man is not he who has a lot, but he who needs little.

Re: I’ve had the same supper for 10 years

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My great-grandfather was traveling to USA for work back in 1912. He came back after 6 years and settled in his village becoming its head. Almost everybody in my family knows this story and it's indeed fascinating, because at that time people rarely moved anywhere. And now we are fascinated by a man living in the same place all his life. It's funny how the concept of norm changes in 100 years.

A man living in the same place all his life has no basis for comparison. I would be more convinced that your great-grandfather's village is something special since he experienced elsewhere yet still returned.

This is exactly the way of thinking lying at the base of unhappiness. Thinking you have to see everything to make a choice.

Spoiler alert: with that attitude you'll never make a choice and always search.

Re: I’ve had the same supper for 10 years

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I can relate a little bit; early on I worked a job where I basically just wiped computers and confirmed they were working, then loaded them on pallets. It was purely physical work (lift a computer, take it to a desk, connect it, power it on, boot to a CD, confirm HD was wiping, go to one that had finished, pop out CD, shut down, disconnect, carry to pallet), in a hot warehouse, but the whole time I did it I felt good…

There is a huge satisfaction, or maybe even a need, to do something then feel the patent and "finished" result of our action. In most occupations we are a cog in some huge machine working in a way forbidding us to enjoy this feeling.

It is not always possible, but as a senior software developer, I try to keep the feeling of 'finished' in my team. It is, by far, the most important piece in keeping a team happy, productive, cooperating and improving.

Definition of done, demo's, releaseparties, well-defined delivery requirements, chopping up tasks, user stories, etc. All help a lot here. But all require effort to maintain, establish and improve. Continously and significant effort.

Re: I’ve had the same supper for 10 years

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Happiness - he's found it. Sure, he's an extreme and very few want to emulate it because there's a mild element of delusion. But, he's found the thing so many of us work our entire lives for only to never find. Part of life is letting happiness find you, part of life is finding happiness, and part of life is pushing away things to find happiness in what you have. I say, well done.

I feel like us (hyper connected city dwellers, constantly chasing personal growth or success or novelty) are the deluded ones.

Why do you say he seems deluded to you?

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I often envy people like him. Working in tech it’s very hard not to get lost in rat race and always go for more money, more knowledge, more everything. I’m actively trying to avoid it, but it gets to me as well. And most of my friends think I’m weird that I don’t want to get one more promotion or why I don’t want to push myself outside of my comfort zone. I’m fine where I am.

I was basically doing that in tech: working for food and a place to be. It was like living in a VM. After 2020 and 14 months of isolation, I'm retiring. Need to find a real place.

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That's pretty much the exact philosophy I live by. I've definitely found no bed frame to be a hard-sell to family and friends, and it's hard to see why once you've tried all the options. A mattress makes a lot of sense, but a bed frame adds little value unless you are short on storage and one has storage built in, or you aren't mobile enough to get to the ground. But maybe I'm missing some utility that others have fo…

If you only have a mattress, you can still move to a different apartment on your own. If you have a bedframe, you will need help. I never want to help anyone else move, so I try to keep my belongings small enough to move myself.

Hmm, in my experience helping others move has been a great was to care for others, and its usually also meant people were willing to help me move.

But if you prefer the independence of minimal living, that's also advantageous.

Re: I’ve had the same supper for 10 years

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> If I could go anywhere, it would be to the Great Wall of China. The amount of work that went into building it is unbelievable. I’ve been a stonemason; I understand the ingenuity involved.

There are some rich people here on HN. Can somebody pay him a week there?

I know I'd do it if I had 7 digits on my bank account.

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