As U.S. schools shuttered, student mental health cratered, survey finds

Post by croes » Mon, Mar 22, 2021, 12:54 AM UTC

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I suggest you might be seeing things too linearly. Consider all the evolved variants. By letting it run wild you would a) just accelerate viral evolution and b) eventually and unpredictably find yourself in a situation where the mortality rate might spiral out of control across all kinds of demographics. You would then do the same thing as now: lockdown measures to curb mortality. I guess the question of lockdown is…

All viruses either die out or become endemic. They mutate continuously while reproducing in your body because copies are not perfect. Most mutations do nothing. Sars2 is already well adapted to humans and none of the new mutations have significantly changed anything about the virus no matter what the media says so it looks like vaccines will end the pandemic soon. I think Sweden got accused of letting infected senior…

Post by dragonwriter » Mon, Mar 22, 2021, 12:58 AM UTC

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What proof would you believe without empirically letting the death rate get into the double digits to begin with?

At this point we have enough data. The CDC gives an approximate IFR of 0.7% in the US. That would translate to low 7 digits. Also, it's very heavily weighted to the 70+ population. Strictly speaking from a kid's perspective, it would mostly be the experience of losing a grandparent early. It would be sad (as death almost always is) but probably not life-changing.

Post by AshWolfy » Mon, Mar 22, 2021, 1:01 AM UTC

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Anyone else find it strange that a country that has often fallen in line with "think of the children" arguments for hypothetical dangers appears to be completely uncaring about very real dangers of social isolation that are impacting our youth?

Well, it is for the good of children as the worst thing a child can get is "implicit racism" that can't be cleansed. As teacher's union repeatedly said, reopening schools even in this December is "a recipe for propagating structural racism". See? what's bigger than racism? Nothing is bigger than racisms, be it truths, problems, issues, or challenges in the US. So, if you dare to mention reopening the school again, yo…

Post by schrodinger » Mon, Mar 22, 2021, 1:10 AM UTC

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Kids would be pretty depressed being surrounded by a 8 digit body count in the US too. Kudos for expressing an unpopular opinion. I'll express another one: I think the whole thing about "ZOMG! Suicide rates through the roof!!!elevelty!1!" is blown out of proportion, largely thanks to pseudo-news web sites trying to grab clicks on the internet. The school district where I live put out a press release lamenting an 18%…

The false assumption here is that making kids stay home for a year saves a single life from covid. It doesn't - the kids have a better survival rate than they do from the flu, and the people who are at risk are overwhelmingly not getting it from kids. Do a cost-benefit analysis. Keeping kids in detention fails it every time.

Post by selectodude » Mon, Mar 22, 2021, 1:12 AM UTC

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> ..with lockdowns in effect enough to keep hospitalization rates below capacity. My understanding is that lockdowns didn't really change things significantly, so the "with lockdowns in effect" is not really relevant. See California (extreme lockdowns from the top) vs Florida (a bit of lockdown from the top) and their associated infection rate per 100k, which is nearly the same.

Down here in Victoria, Australia: despite over 20k infections, a prolonged lockdown let us eliminate COVID entirely.