Jesus that whole site is like a bunch of racist insane Yosemite Sam impersonators. I wouldn’t want them as a customer either.
Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler
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#362They have to do this by the fact that Google and Apple preceded them, they don't want to appear as the bad guys.
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#363For all the fear of the rise of fascism over the past 4 years coming from the Republican Party it appears we must also now worry about this coming from the Democratic Party. Mega-corporations acting on the behalf of the party coming into power, that will be most definitely be regulating those companies, is about as textbook fascist as you can get. However, no one who matters cares because they happen to agree with th…
Corporate power bereft of ultra-nationalism, and generic authoritarianism, are not fascism. Whatever else you can say about the Democrats, they are not in favor of blood-and-soil policies. I did not downvote your post but I find your watering down of the phrase of fascism to be worth taking issue with. As for the troubling power of mega-corporations, it’s rather sad that this is the incident that made you aware of it. So you didn’t see fit to criticize them until now?
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#364If you are in any way competing with Amazon, you should think twice before hosting on AWS.
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#365Slippery slope is accelerating. Soon any wrongthink will get you banned by the tech cabal.
The platform is being actively used to plan attacks on our government... at a certain point this becomes a liability to any party that enabled it. As it should.
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#366A tale as old as HN itself: a service enforces its own Terms of Service, and commenters fall over themselves to defend an absurd absolutist ideal of "free speech" even when it directly leads to a violent mob committing sedition against the United States. Spare us, please. Reconcile your ideals with what's in front of you today before insisting that we need to live up to those ideals.
If they were truly free speech absolutists they would acknowledge the Twitter/AWS/Apple/Google/etc. have the free speech right to decide what content they want to host.
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#367> “[W]e cannot provide services to a customer that is unable to effectively identify and remove content that encourages or incites violence against others,” This seems to be the standard
"No justice no peace"
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#368I've read comments saying, "if you don't like Apple's policies, build a new smartphone." Are these people aware that that the same type of argument lead to the creation of parler: "if you don't like twitter censorship, build a new platform". It will be built. What then? At this point we are heading towards a complete mitosis of our information channels based on political ideology.
Why wouldn't the reasons for Parler being removed from application marketplaces be extricated from the more mainstream elements of the political ideology?
Why not say "hey, get out of our party! you're not welcome here. we are against the extremist views you hold, and you're making it harder for us as a party to gather and share our ideas"?
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#369The whole Parler thing is very interesting to me. Many people point out that Twitter, Facebook, and other social networks have the same TOS violating content that Parler does but I wonder if this will come down to a "reasonable attempt" situation like Youtube copyright.
Youtube and later on Twitch got into trouble with the RIAA and other major media groups because Youtube allows users to upload copyrighted material. I believe the result of the lawsuit vs Viacom was that Google has to make a reasonable attempt to keep copyright material off Youtube which brought about the ContentID system.
Circling this back to Parler, Twitter and Facebook both have the same type of "hate speech" that Parler does that would violate Google's, Apple's, and AWS ToS but the difference is they can make the claim they make a "reasonable attempt" to keep those comments off while Parler does not.
There's also the argument that now that the Democrats are in charge, the heads at FAANG is increasingly worried about regulation and getting broken up so it's in their best interest to take a harder stance on this. I think the coming months will be very interesting.
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