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Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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Post by joseph_grobbles »

silentsea90 wrote: post #256
joseph_grobbles wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"The name was approved by Apple years ago" This isn't going to be popular, however getting away with something for a period of time is not the same as being approved/sanctioned/etc. In the petition the author claimed that the app "spontaneously began violating" one of the guidelines, when clearly it has violated it all along. Yet that disingenuous angle is used constantly when people get away with something for a whi…

Apple approved of the app. Hence the name was approved. Not sure what we mean by "getting away" here

I drove by a cop over the speed limit yesterday. He didn't pull me over. Therefore I can always drive over the speed limit and it is "approved".

This is childish, nonsensical argumentation. The app has always been in contravention of the rules of the app store.

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Post by ineedasername »

I wonder if app store moderation is run on a quota system. It would explain why we continuously have stories about app X getting banned under a very loose interpretation of a guideline if moderators are "poor performers" when they don't find offending apps.

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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Post by megablast »

DoofusOfDeath wrote: post #82
mmaunder wrote: post #23

You’re angry. I’ve felt this in a trademark lawsuit. You think the world should get behind you and change the corrupt system. My advice is to immediately rebrand as gracefully and effectively as possible and use all that activist energy to effect the transition. They kind of have a point which doesn’t make them right, but they hold all the cards and you will lose this one and regret the wasted bandwidth.

Agreed. I've found that there's a meta-skill in life: accepting that one can't right every injustice, and to not let that fact prevent you from being happy.

A great way to justify not doing anything.

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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Post by mcpherrinm »

htfu wrote: post #333
mcpherrinm wrote: post #300

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(edited due to inaccuracy) There is a command line tool called caffeinate that ships with Mac OS. Maybe Apple didn’t like somebody using something so similar their system utility name. Originally I thought it was the same name, so this seems much less likely now that they're merely similar.

No, that's called caffeinate.

Ooops, edited my original comment. Blame tab completion for never making me type the end of the name! Thanks for the correction.

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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Post by 0xEFF »

freehunter wrote: post #279
bambax wrote: post #210

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> I’m not offended by the word “fuck” but I don’t really want to buy products that are named that. Then don't. How is this relevant? They say the app has been downloaded 500,000 times, so many people are fine with the name. These stories keep coming; they should remind us that nothing is more precious than the open web, and all those stores or walled gardens, their "rules" and vague TOS are the ennemy.

I download and use the app despite the name. I’m not okay with it, but I need the features it offers and there isn’t a better alternative with a better name. There used to be (called Caffeine) but it disappeared from the store and I’m not sure why. Just because people use the app doesn’t mean they like the name.

The caffeinate command is built into macos.

Edit: This keeps the computer awake until 6 PM each day.

  caffeinate -u -i -s -t $(($(date -j -f "%a %b %d %T %Z %Y" "$(date +"%a %b %d 18:00:00 %Z %Y")" "+%s") - $(date +%s)))

Re: Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store

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Post by Daho0n »

crazygringo wrote: post #168

I mean, on this point I'm actually inclined to think Apple's general policy is reasonable, even if it sucks that Apple is only now adding or enforcing this rule. It doesn't want apps that jokingly call themselves "Crack Cocaine", "Crystal Meth", or "Mango Vape". It doesn't have anything to do with them actually promoting drug use, but it helps normalize illegal drug use in a way, while Apple wants to keep a "family f…

Apple disagrees with you - or at least they did when it was a Mac App Store Story.

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Post by webmobdev »

tigen wrote: post #113

I don't agree with Apple here but I also don't feel too outraged either, I can see both sides and it's their store. I actually think Windows/MacOS should build the most commonly used sleep-gating functionality into the OS. (On Windows there's Coffee and Milk, where Coffee helps you keep it awake and Milk helps you figure out why it doesn't sleep. Seems like basic modern OS stuff to me.)

If you are not outraged, you aren't putting yourself in the author's shoe - they created an app that has been in the app store for 6 years. They marketed it and got a large number of users. And now suddenly Apple removes it because it doesn't like the name of the app. Do you want Apple to be the arbitrator of silly things like the name of the app or even your company?

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Post by CydeWeys »

huffmsa wrote: post #335
renewiltord wrote: post #281

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There's an app called Caffeine that does the same thing. It's what I use.

Next on the chopping block.

Doubt it, seeing as how caffeine isn't a controlled substance.

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Post by hshshs2 »

chrischen wrote: post #258
hshshs2 wrote: post #138

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They’re a $2 trillion dollar company, unless you have an incredibly strong case (this isn’t one) then you will lose a war of attrition every time... even sometimes if you do have a strong case. Choose your battles wisely, live to fight another day, etc... Pound for pound you’d likely be better off putting your energy into policy. The scale is still tilted there, but there is some traction behind fairer app marketplac…

Not every fight is a 2-trillion dollar fight. If you say decide to commit some fraudulent chargeback against an Apple purchase they are unlikely to pursue it, for example, even though they are a 2-trillion dollar company that could crush you. Spending $5000 of lawyer time to recover $50 may not be worth their time and they know it.

Sure but they could also just ban you completely at near 0 cost... and what could you do about it then? It’s not something an individual can manage.
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