I will be taking it asap, I'd rather face the risks of taking a tested vaccine than the risks of getting or spreading Covid.
Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?
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#362Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here's my answer the to "why". We need to achieve herd immunity and you're part of that. Get it for the sake of other people. Someday the tables may be turned and you'll be hoping others make a sacrifice for you.
Why? It's a disease with a 97% survival rate. A huge majority of cases are asymptomatic. As in zero symptoms, zero negative health effects, none. Why does it even matter either way? 3% of the population is severely at risk from this. 3%. If those 3% of people are vaccinated, then why does it even matter if anyone else is?
> If those 3% of people are vaccinated, then why does it even matter if anyone else is?
They can't all be. A significant chunk of the people at risk are also immunocompromised, which means the vaccine will be counter indicated and they rely on the disease not reaching them.
In order for the disease not to reach them, you need herd immunity.
Also, do you want to have a normal life again? Take the damn vaccine. We won't get to looser restrictions without achieving herd immunity, and herd immunity needs 60 percent of people, not the 3 percent at risk.
"I'll let others get it and be part of the 40 percent who want to have a normal life ASAP but won't do anything to contribute to that" is the most selfish shit.
Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?
#363I'll take it but only later in the year when it is more widely available. People at high risk should go first, then people who are super social (or stupid + spreading the plague). Especially younger people, they need to get pricked. Do you really think they're going to avoid drinking close physical contact in spring? Me neither.
needs an edit for the assumption. also, half of the planet is already in Spring
Half the geography, maybe. Maybe 12% of the population (at most).
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#364If you voted YES and were able to choose among the available (Western) vaccines, BioNTech/Pfizer, Moderna or Oxford/AstraZeneca, which one would you take? Does it matter for you?
Why did you specify western?
“ Russia approved the vaccine after trying it on several dozen subjects in a non-blind study and ahead of Phase 3 trials, which are key to establish its safety and efficacy, drawing skepticism from the international community and accusations it could have jumped the gun for political gains.”
Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?
#365If vaccines restrict travel, then a lot of young people wanna get vaccinated
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#366Earlier quoted context omitted.
People keep forgetting that the vast majority of people under 45 that get in never have any idea that even had it and over 97% of deaths are people over 45.
Some of us are over 45. Some of us have regular contact with people over 45. Some of us know people who've died of COVID who are under 45.
Not trying to be snarky, but just curious: do you know anyone under 45 who has died from it?
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#367Earlier quoted context omitted.
They spent 2 decades building technology platforms that enable rapid development of vaccines for specific diseases. The specifics of the Moderna vaccine took 2 days once they had the genome of the virus. But there was an awful lot of work done before then.
Can you elaborate on what you mean it took 2 days? is this akin to a programmer creating a simulation for weeks and then taking an hour to ingest the input data into the simulation?
They got the genome (and I imagine other data) from scientists in China, identified what they believed would be a good target for the immune system and designed the mRNA sequence that would trigger immunity to that target.
https://globalnews.ca/news/7492076/moderna-coronavirus-vacci...
Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?
#368Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?
#369I'll take it but only later in the year when it is more widely available. People at high risk should go first, then people who are super social (or stupid + spreading the plague). Especially younger people, they need to get pricked. Do you really think they're going to avoid drinking close physical contact in spring? Me neither.
> People who are super social (or stupid + spreading the plague) What if somebody has asymptomatic covid infection? He or she spreads it without intent, you can not blame them.
I sure can, if they're in the US. We're still in lockdown. My state just announced even stronger precautions which go into effect in about 6 hours.
If you are spreading COVID in the US, whether or not you're symptomatic, it's a conscious choice.
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#370I'm surprised to see such a high percentage of "NO" responses. I'm genuinely curious to understand why
There are barely 80 votes at the moment of writing this comment, of which barely 10 are a "NO", so it's a bit early for "high percentage". (Edit: Now it's 73/(798 + 279 + 73), less than 7%, so the point stands.) But I'm a "NO", FWIW. And while I'm not surprised by the "high percentage" of "YES" votes because of HN demographics, I do not approve. I mean, I don't really care what other people do with their lives, but this shouldn't be expected to be the default choice.
For the record, vaccines are not a controversial topic in my country like they seem to be in the USA. Kids are vaccinated at school, I received numerous vaccines during my life, some of them totally optional and quite expensive, which I paid for anyway, because it felt like a safer way to be. And of course I do not think vaccines are an evil plan of Bill Gates to... I'm not even sure what the crazy conspiracy theory about that is supposed to be, but I'm pretty sure there is some.
But I am a crazy conspiracy theorist in a sense that I firmly believe that COVID-19 is hugely overhyped. Of course, I'm scared and ashamed of saying that, because nowadays this seems to be a stronger version of saying "Hitler did nothing wrong", but you are asking about "why no", so here we are.
Basically, it's a trade off between reasons to do it and reasons not to (as always).
Is there a reason to avoid doing it? Well, yes. Basically, expectation that everyone should do it is that reason: the topic is insanely hot, and it's never a good thing. This is a huge business opportunity for every pharmaceutical company that gets to push their vaccine right now, and this is some hastily cooked shit you expect me to take. Some of these vaccines are quite a novelty, which is not a bad thing on its own, but this is unlike most vaccines I have ever taken, which are basically decades old and literally millions of people have taken them before me. Maybe it's totally safe, maybe it isn't. No couple-months-long trial will ever answer that.
Is there a reason to take it? Well, sure. Like there is a reason to take a flu vaccine. Which I don't do, because there are new mutations every year, and there are countless more versions of "common cold". Yes, people die of that, and it's never a pleasant experience, and I live in a cold climate, where this is a very common seasonal thing, but it's just how things are. It's ok. And I'm not going to elaborate on all "Hitler did nothing wrong" thing, because what I've said so far is more than enough to trigger someone, but, well, I know people that had been sick with COVID-19. I contacted them in person when they were already sick, and it just so happens that neither of us was wearing any mask. I wasn't really a responsible citizen all the time. It doesn't seem that the stakes are much higher than with a flu. For some of people it seemed to be more like a really light version of a common cold.
So there's a little of "no" vs a little of "yes" and it just so happens that "no" overweights quite confidently.
Maybe it is fair to say that I should've voted "I'll wail", because this "no" isn't final. But then no "yes" is final either, anything can happen, the last year should've taught us that if anything. And I don't have any specific date I have to wait for. The point is, currently I'm not going to do that, and I hope it stays this way.