But, is this literally one server?
macOS unable to open any non-Apple application
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#362Macbook as a service
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#363Sincerely and without any intention to troll or be sarcastic: I'm puzzled that people are willing buy a computer/OS where (apparently) software can/will fail to launch if some central company server goes down. Maybe I'm just getting this wrong, because I can honestly not quite wrap my head around this. This is such a big no-go, from a systems design point of view. Even beyond unintentional glitches at Apple, just ima…
> I'm puzzled that people are willing buy a computer/OS where (apparently) software can/will fail to launch if some central company server goes down. Maybe I'm just getting this wrong, because I can honestly not quite wrap my head around this. This is such a big no-go, from a systems design point of view. The answer is pretty simple: these problems are extremely rare, they don't last very long, and they tend to have…
It's even simpler than people not caring, people don't know.
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#364Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wait what happens if you don't have an internet connection? Can Macs not be used offline any more, surely that's still a relatively common use case for a laptop even today in a lot of places?
On iOS, after a period of disconnection "the phone won't let you turn it on again until it goes online": https://youtu.be/BW32yUEymvU?t=1212
I'm guessing this is to help trigger the wipe of stolen phones.
Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application
#365Sincerely and without any intention to troll or be sarcastic: I'm puzzled that people are willing buy a computer/OS where (apparently) software can/will fail to launch if some central company server goes down. Maybe I'm just getting this wrong, because I can honestly not quite wrap my head around this. This is such a big no-go, from a systems design point of view. Even beyond unintentional glitches at Apple, just ima…
In short, the vast majority of users never need or want fine-grained control over their computers. In the HN community, we are mostly edge cases in terms of computer usage & functionality requirements.
I believe this is why there has never been any mass pushback against iOS/Android (even if Android is slightly better in this respect).
Further, neither iOS nor Android (and now OS X) have instituted huge restrictive changes all at once. Restrictions are gradual & creeping, basically moving the overton window of what is accepted.
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#366Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I'm puzzled that people are willing buy a computer/OS where (apparently) software can/will fail to launch if some central company server goes down. Maybe I'm just getting this wrong, because I can honestly not quite wrap my head around this. This is such a big no-go, from a systems design point of view. The answer is pretty simple: these problems are extremely rare, they don't last very long, and they tend to have…
> rare, very long, simple in this context those are simply weasel words in my opinion
It's true that I don't have data on how often this type of problem happens, how long they last, and what the workarounds are, but I'm using those words not to be intentionally vague, but to reflect my own impression from my own experience, and I strongly suspect my impression matches most people's.
Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application
#367Sincerely and without any intention to troll or be sarcastic: I'm puzzled that people are willing buy a computer/OS where (apparently) software can/will fail to launch if some central company server goes down. Maybe I'm just getting this wrong, because I can honestly not quite wrap my head around this. This is such a big no-go, from a systems design point of view. Even beyond unintentional glitches at Apple, just ima…
Welcome to 2020.
Because we can't have nice things, Apple has to check that apps are signed with a current certificate for safety and security reasons. OCSP tells the client if the certificate has been revoked or not.
Try opening a non-https web page; you'll get a bunch of ominous warnings from all major browsers.
Browser certificates need to be OSCP signed for the browser to trust them. You can't even get a new cert if the issuer’s OCSP server goes down, which does happen on occasion.
There are so many dependencies to ensure we're not running malware infected apps that sometimes things break.
Let’s not get carried away; every major tech company has had some version of this happen at one time or another.
FWIW, I haven't experienced any issues with my iMac running Big Sur running Apple or 3rd party apps all day.
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#368I did experience a very strange slowdown earlier today, and other odd behavior - first, a massive slowdown and then on a reboot, the keyboard wasn't found. After some tinkering, it's all better now - though I don't know that the tinkering actually did anything.
Same! On 2 Macs! My external keyboard and mouse stopped working. I thought I was having some hardware or USB issues.
Are you using Logitech keyboard and mouse, by any chance?
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#369So this is what was happening to my MBP a couple hours ago? Right before a meeting my Mac started glitching out - extremely slow to do anything and spinning beach ball. Launching any app would take literal minutes. Spent the next hour rebooting & diagnosing. Then it suddenly went back to normal. That's great.
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#370Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Why is it scary that your computer checks for malware? It isn't just checking for malware, its broadcasting your app opening behavior to apple and anyone else who might be listening. > It’s not like Apple us building a database of apps you’ve launched linked to your address and social security number. You know this how? Seriously, I don't get why you would believe that.
Because Apple would not benefit from doing so, I’m fact could be hugely damaged doing so. They don’t have any significant advertising business. They don’t need to collect any personally identifiable information. They’ve promoted their brand by putting their customers privacy first. So why would you believe they would intentionally risk all of that here?
What if a 3 letter agency told them so? (Since apparently it is entirely impossible for people to even conceive that apple might be doing it for their own benefit)